Elouise Cobell, a member of the Blackfeet Tribe from Montana who was the lead plaintiff in the class-action lawsuit regarding the U.S. government’s trust management and accounting of more than 300,000 individual American Indian trust accounts, left, is greeted by Department of the Interior Secretary Ken Salazar following an announcement on the settlement of the Cobell lawsuit at the Interior Department in Washington, Dec. 8. Attorney General Eric Holder is seen on the right.
WASHINGTON – The Obama administration has taken a definitive step to settle a long-running trust mismanagement class action lawsuit involving hundreds of thousands of Native Americans.
The Department of the Interior announced Dec. 8 that it had negotiated a settlement to the Cobell v. Salazar litigation, which could amount to a $1.4 billion payback to Indian plaintiffs involved in the case, plus another $2 billion to buy back fractured trust interests.
“We are here today to right a past wrong,” Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said during a briefing on the plan held at Interior headquarters.
For the settlement to become final, Congress must pass legislation to approve it, and the court overseeing the case must also agree, said Attorney General Eric Holder.
Salazar is hopeful that legislative action will occur before the end of the year, based on discussions he’s already had with some lawmakers.
The litigation has centered on the argument that the government mismanaged billions of dollars in oil, gas, grazing, timber and other royalties overseen by the Interior for Indian trustees since 1887.
The case has gone through numerous appeals since it was first filed in 1996.
If the settlement is approved, a $1,000 check will be sent to each member of the class, said Associate Attorney General Tom Perrelli.
Then, a formula established by the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, the overseeing court, would provide more settlement funds to individual class members.
President Barack Obama, perhaps signifying a turning point in federal Indian relations, said he was proud of the decision to settle.
“As a candidate, I heard from many in Indian country that the Cobell suit remained a stain on the nation-to-nation relationship I value so much,” the president said in a statement.
“I pledged my commitment to resolving this issue, and I am proud that my administration has taken this step today. …”
Obama also urged Congress “to act swiftly to correct this long-standing injustice and to remember that no special appropriations are required.”
Dennis Gingold, the lead lawyer for the plaintiffs, said the request from Obama to Congress was especially important.
“It shows he really cares about getting this done quickly, which is a good sign.”
Elouise Cobell said she was thankful to Interior for the gesture, adding she had thought the case would be settled long ago.
“Today we have an administration that is listening to us,” the lead plaintiff said.
It was a big shift in her position from the spring when she had expressed dissatisfaction with the administration for not focusing on the issue more quickly.
Still, Cobell said there is “no doubt” that the settlement amount is “significantly less than the full accounting to which the class members are entitled.”
Estimates of lost principal and interest offered by lawyers for the Indian plaintiffs during legal proceedings ranged much higher than the Obama administration’s offer, with some figures towering as high as $58 billion.
But Cobell said as the case has progressed through the years, some class members have passed away, and many are living in extreme poverty.
“A settlement can address the situation,” Cobell said, adding that she doesn’t believe trust reform should stop at this point.
Later, she noted that an August 2008 ruling from U.S. District Judge James Robertson said individual account holders deserved $455.6 million. The ruling was on appeal, but the number appeared to weigh on the decision to make the deal with the Obama administration.
Cobell is hopeful Interior will work to permanently correct wrongs so Indian account holders will have knowledge of money that is rightfully theirs.
As part of the settlement, a $2 billion fund would also be set up by Interior aimed at buying back trust interests from individuals, Salazar said, although he acknowledged that some class members would likely be distrustful of choosing to sell their interests.
Salazar called the plan a “land consolidation program,” saying it will provide individual Indians with an opportunity to obtain cash payments for divided land interests and free up lands for the benefit of tribal communities.
In order to provide owners additional incentive to sell their interests, the settlement authorizes Interior to set aside up to five percent of the value of the interests into a college and vocational school scholarship fund for American Indian students.
The decision to settle did not come easily, according to administration officials who said serious work on the deal had been ongoing since summer.
Holder noted that Justice could have decided to continue litigating the case “at great expense to taxpayers.”
Announcement of the decision received generally positive reaction from leaders in Indian country, although some have said the settlement offer was too low.
Others, like Tex Hall, former president of the National Congress of American Indians, were more accepting.
“At long last, President Obama and Secretary Salazar have held true to their word and settled this case unlike past administrations who have not listened to us,” Hall said, echoing the words of many across Indian country.
Hall called on Congress to quickly support the settlement, which has already been done by lawmakers who tend to be supportive of Indian issues.
Interior currently manages about 56 million acres of Indian trust land, administering more than 100,000 leases and about $3.5 billion in trust funds.
For fiscal year 2009, funds from leases, use permits, land sales and income from financial assets, totaling about $298 million were collected for more than 384,000 open Individual Indian Money accounts and $566 million was collected for about 2,700 tribal accounts for more than 250 tribes.
More information on the settlement is available online.
The Cobell settlement: What’s in a number?
Call it the billion dollar question. Or the multi-billion dollar question.
The proposed federal government settlement of the Cobell case for $1.4 billion, plus a $2 billion land consolidation fund, has some members of the class of approximately 300,000 Indians involved in the case asking if that amount is anywhere close to the number they deserve.
Dan Sheehan, chief counsel of the Lakota Peoples’ Law Office, said the settlement is a huge injustice, equating it to Indians being given trinkets and beads for the sale of the island of Manhattan. He wishes the plaintiffs had kept fighting for more money.
“After all of this time of litigating this thing, they’ve settled for one percent of what probably is really owed to them.”
The truth is, Sheehan just might be right, especially going by numbers put forth by the Indian plaintiffs’ legal defense team over the years. The long-running case, after all, has involved more than 120 years of mismanaged and missing oil, gas, grazing, timber and other royalties overseen by the Interior Department for Indian trustees since 1887.
Estimates of how much it has cost Interior and federal officials to investigate the case since it was filed in 1996 fall in the $5 billion dollar range – a number that far surpasses the settlement offer on the table.
Meanwhile, estimates from the Indian plaintiffs regarding lost principal and interest have run as high as $58 billion. Some independent investigators have estimated that lost funds probably amounted to anywhere between $6 billion and $10 billion.
Lead plaintiff Elouise Cobell helped draft a $27.5 billion legislative proposal for Congress to consider in 2005. She had also argued recently that $46 billion was a key number.
The 2005 proposal went nowhere – federal officials balked – but Sen. John McCain, the Arizona Republican who previously served as leader of the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs, considered a legislative option that would have provided approximately $8 billion to end the case.
In the aftermath of the Obama administration settlement, remembrances of that $8 billion figure have loomed large. Some have mistakenly recalled that the idea was a concrete and serious offer from the Bush administration itself, which is not reality.
What is reality is in 2007, former Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne publicly said the Bush administration was willing to consider a settlement in the $7 billion range.
What he didn’t publicly say was that the number was focused not only on ending the individual trust lawsuits involved in Cobell, but a range of tribal and individual Indian cases and future ones that could involve trust matters.
The idea that future litigation could be curbed as a result of a one-time settlement prevented talks from moving forward, Cobell said at the time. She called provisions of the deal “a license to steal.”
Cobell feels much differently about the $3.4 billion involved in the Obama settlement. Not only will it provide some immediate money for poverty-stricken plaintiffs and the promise of education funding, it does not include provisions that would limit future lawsuits.
Dennis Gingold, a lead lawyer for the Indian plaintiffs, explained that such limitations would have been a deal breaker.
“We would not have settled if there had been a bar imposed on the possibility of future litigation, based on new facts.”
Still, Gingold knows all too well that there are some in Indian country who think the case was settled hastily.
He went so far as to say his own pockets won’t be lined with cash if the settlement does go through, although a final agreement on legal fees will not be hammered out for a while.
Also looming large on the plaintiffs’ decision to settle was an August 2008 ruling from U.S. District Judge James Robertson, which said that individual account holders deserved $455.6 million.
In his ruling, which was soon appealed, Robertson, in effect, accepted the government’s previously argued estimate that “no more than $455.6 million is missing from the stated balance of the [Individual Indian Money] trust.”
While the Indian plaintiffs felt they had a strong case on appeal to get much more than Robertson outlined, the number was jarringly small.
Cobell said after the Obama settlement was announced that Robertson’s number had weighed on her mind, perhaps putting administration negotiators in more of a position of power.
She said the number was too low, and, in comparison, the $3.4 billion dollar deal was pretty good – plus, it wouldn’t hamper any other current or future suits from proceeding.
“It’s a win for Indian country,” Cobell said. “Now we move forward.”
well. They change admin rights in computer, are in the security of the computers, etc. Too much to list here, but it is intelligent and massive. I am sure I dont know it all either. but is technology that was used to their advantage in many areas. Technolgy is the terrorits.
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Sunday, Jan 10 at 3:56 PM MLee wrote ...
There is no doubt to me, once the US Gov sees this N tries to correct it, the deceptor will say, but your sins ar great, you did this here n there, that is the one who not only used technology to record these things, but also used technology to create these things by making confusion and anger between nations, all the deceptions. Once it is seen the Lord says, go and sin no more but before you knew, it is not your fault, do not fall to the deception of technology. I have had to learn all to
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Sunday, Jan 10 at 3:13 PM MLee wrote ...
It costs next to nothing to make a revision of all the papers, that is one page, or, change one word in the writings to American Indian. Do not let any more deception and lies, nor be called ridiculous. Do not be intimidated, if you are, I will say it. I fear no Man, I fear God only. For the suffering they lead me to God, their fault. For the suffering of so many. Be joyful for much is to be known yet. It is for all of America, and all the people in it. Do not blame for the lies are the deceptio
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Sunday, Jan 10 at 3:07 PM MLee wrote ...
Do not let the technology deceive you, what was done. Our market stolen, etc. all will be seen, do not say what will we eat, what will we do. There is plenty of money when it is seen. We are told even all the Glory of Solomon is nothing compare to what is prepared for you. All the lies, technology and deceptions will be seen for what it is. What has been done. For what is done in the dark, will be brought to the light. That means the lies and deception will be known, fear not, only believe.
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Sunday, Jan 10 at 2:48 PM MLee wrote ...
There are many Spirits, but only One, Holy Spirit, when it is found in the writing, give the Glory to the Holy Spirit that guides his people. Give no man the Glory, for no Man is Christ, who saves us all. Again, Make sure the Papers say, American Indian any time Indian is mentioned. Do not let the land be stolen. READ all writings. AMT, Land Revitalization, Peace deals, Health care reform, all is make way for the coming Christ, put your faith in no man. For no one is rightous not even one.
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Sunday, Jan 10 at 2:01 PM MLee wrote ...
let me make clear, My Grandfather not Bartholamew, my Grandfather raised his children, by hunting, fishing, farming. And Blessed me with much teaching I did not understand till now. Will not tell who he is. And keep his blood as safe as possible, for all the things that have been done already to keep them suppressed. With no need to. A fair and loving people.
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Sunday, Jan 10 at 1:57 PM MLee wrote ...
Where there is blood there is life. Even the smallest amount. Like we are told to fully cook our meat, consider the smallest bacteria that can make you sick, it is not only to protect us, but also to show us, even the smallest amount of blood, also the spirit of the blood, even the smallest amount, that cries out for justice. What is right, a peaceful, proud people, for what is right.
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Sunday, Jan 10 at 1:51 PM MLee wrote ...
America, One Nation, Under GOD, INDIVISABLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. In this Nation, many mixed bloods, illness brought to this Nation & denied because it is known, for there are many left in Jersey. Bartholamew never would have taken that money if there were not others that needed it. if just him he would not have taken the deal. But he did secure hunting, fishing and farming for those left and that was my GrandFather who taught me much of the ways. And also protected me.
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Sunday, Jan 10 at 1:35 PM MLee wrote ...
Ok, I may have figured it out. If this is it. In regards to land acts, make sure where Indian is mentioned, it distinctly states, AMERICAN INDIAN. I truly feel this is where God is leading me. May you be lead by the true living God. Jesus Christ his Son, and the Comforter who is the Holy Spirit, the true Spirit that speaks the truth. Amen.
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Saturday, Jan 9 at 5:31 PM MLee wrote ...
Believe what you want, but God says if there is fighting among you, you have already lost, it is time for the twelve elders of the tribes to come together, the weapon is the wood, that is the paper, the new Jerusalem, that is the US. I strongly believe this, it is in the translation of the word. The different tongues and the dialong. the peace agreements, and the coming of the one to save us all. Again, can't explain if no one wants to hear. But read what is the truth, deception wants you to fig
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Saturday, Jan 9 at 5:14 PM MLee wrote ...
What no one is catching onto is whether Obama or Bush, both are involved in the UN. They all belong to the big picture we are not privaleged to know about. Be careful who you trust. It is time to look at the land revitalization act that looks to steal all of your lands. China is buying, Obama settled to get you all o ut of the way. Move on from this and look ahead.
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Saturday, Jan 9 at 5:07 PM MLee wrote ...
If someone finds the mistakes in the Land revitalization acts and are affraid to address it for retaliation. Just tell me, I will fight and bring it to the attention. We have already been destroyed for being Indian here in OH something to do with OH and CT, this house and the land and my heritage. But is becaue I am not affraid to speak up for all Indians in the US and I will take that stand. If it is the last of my people, and all American Indian Blood, I fear no evil and is why we are destro
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Saturday, Jan 9 at 12:44 AM MLee wrote ...
There is much oil in the north section of US not tapped yet, is called Balken oil fields. New technology being developed to drill for this oil. Is supposed to be more then all of Middle East together. Be careful for your land. i do not know history of and just looking since starting these nightmares. But maybe someone else will know. Obama seems scary to me, be careful and read everything even little details. May be just a word but could mean alot. Not sure, just read before signing anything.
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Saturday, Jan 9 at 12:40 AM MLee wrote ...
I have had no rest 2mo. I am only Lenapee from S.J. but need to speak to an elder for all Indian Nations. There is something wrong in the writing. I know we don't believe in stuff, but Spirits & ALL kinds of things. Also been put through heck here in Mad. OH. our house is historic INdian we have been financially destroyed to try to get us out of our house. Actions are gang stalking, many join in under lies and hate. To gain our home and destroy us.
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Saturday, Jan 9 at 12:36 AM MLee wrote ...
I am concerned of the ramifications the land revitalization act will have, I am concerned about China's interest in buying US land, and the AMT that is going to hit this settlement. I have nothing in it, none comes to me but nightmares of wilting grass, storms and all that is being stolen.
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Thursday, Jan 7 at 9:45 PM Crow Warrior wrote ...
So once again we Have to take the Deal from the Devil we all Know! At least make us all millionaires, all the money will all go right back into the Economy anyway and Help that sector anyway!It's the least we should get!
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Friday, Jan 1 at 9:59 PM Candace Colbert Odom wrote ...
It would be nice since the original allottees were given 160 acres of land, and a mule to work the land that the govt would give the same amount of money that that land would bring on todays market... I think the mineral rights should stay with the original allottee.
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Monday, Dec 28 at 7:02 AM Unique Material wrote ...
"... Not only will it provide some immediate money for poverty-stricken plaintiffs and the promise of education funding, it *does not* include provisions that would *limit future lawsuits*..."
The best part.
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Sunday, Dec 27 at 1:58 PM mn native wrote ...
i am so in agreement with storm cloud do the math people storm cloud is right or did we settle for the 8 mil and us as reg population of indians thats our share or the lawyers getting it which is well and good and cobell deserves her share as well my yes she does but why if we did not settle for that shame on on it
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Saturday, Dec 26 at 11:19 AM Crow Warriior wrote ...
We were defeated by the Whiteman by his bullets, bible ,his guns and his lies. Now it seems we are to settle for pennies of his Frogskin money! It's like buying Manhattan all over again!
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Wednesday, Dec 23 at 2:56 PM Real Trust Landowner wrote ...
Kudos are clearly in order for Ms. Cobell for bringing the lawsuit that brought about improvements in IIM account management. However, class members should carefully review the settlement agreement which will award each class member a maximum of $1500 but an incentive award for Ms. Cobell and the three other class representatives a minimum of $15 million(page 49 of agrmnt). This appears an outrageous inequity that smacks of selling out major trust landowners.
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Monday, Dec 21 at 5:21 PM Paulette Ruiz wrote ...
I just wondering...When do we see something..how many more years before I can make things happen for my children and grandchildren and Great grandchildren who by the way are Registured members of their Fathers Tribe/ sad since mine doesn't have a Federally Recongnized Tribal Name... but how long must we still wait... the last time I received anything (over 10 yrs) I used it to buy gifts for my children and it was the happiest moment of my life. Now I am Still waiting
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Sunday, Dec 20 at 9:15 PM Rocky Mountains wrote ...
Ms. Cobell is to be honored and congratulated, the US government is to be relagated to the dustbin of history for its pathetic attempt at justice. They didn't fight for 15 years because they thought they were wrong, they fought because they still have land and resources to steal and they won't stop until every last Indian is dead.
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Sunday, Dec 20 at 1:19 PM tamia wrote ...
Native American Rights Under Assault
Where are our leaders and the media? This is happening today, everyday, throughout our country... time we start holding these people accountable and start stepping up and taking care of our own.
Call to Action:
Sign the online petition "Crow Creek Sioux Land is NOT For Sale"
http://www.petitiononline.com/CrowCre...
Who Turned Off The Rights For The Residents Of Crow Creek?
http://issueswire.com/releases/CAN-DO...
IRS sells SD Indian tribe's land
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Saturday, Dec 19 at 6:42 PM Crow Warrior wrote ...
Why is it that when the Rip-off Bankers ,who contributed to the breakdown of the American Economy,need a bailout from Taxpayers Via the Govt. they are given billions in practically no time! When the Native Tribes are awarded a minute fraction of what is owed them for centuries of rip offs they Have to wait 'till it's (Approved) This is a trvesty of Justice Justice delayed is justice denied!
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Friday, Dec 18 at 6:06 PM James Morasco wrote ...
As a white, ordained minister of the Christian faith, and as a human being, I have been ashamed of the behavior of my government and others who throughout history have committed crimes against humanity "in the name of God." I folowed the Obama meetings with great interest and sincerely hope it marks a turning point in relations with Native peoples. Unfortunatly history isn't in our favor.
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Thursday, Dec 17 at 11:23 PM HonorIndians wrote ...
Today the Obama administration, through Hillary Clinton, offered to help developing nations raise 100 Billion per year by 2020 for global warming. Cobell et.al. fight tooth and nail for 13 years and the Obama administration offers U.S. "developing nations" 3.4 billion. Where is the "economic justice" you offered as hope and change?
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Thursday, Dec 17 at 2:51 PM tribal member wrote ...
Cobell was truly in a dilemma, that is, continue to listen to the elders cry every single day about their poverty and sufferings? Or appear selfish and apathetic to their needs and fight for another 100 years regardless of all our pain. Who in their right mind NOT listen to the elders? I don’t blame Cobell at all for settling the IIM trust fund. This was truly a dilemma for Cobell. I feel for her.
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Wednesday, Dec 16 at 11:55 PM Crying On The Inside wrote ...
Just another knee to the stomach for the Indian people, how can Salazar straight faced say that they can right any wrong made against the native american people! Our brothers and sisters that have passed on are rolling in their graves, it also surprises me that the feds,Obama,DOI,did not offer any whiskey in the deal!
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Wednesday, Dec 16 at 5:50 PM rezzie wrote ...
Long overdue.
Good going Ms. Cobell!
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Wednesday, Dec 16 at 2:52 PM Eyes OpenAs wrote ...
As a native american son,I Have witnessed the hope,frustration,and now bitterness that my parent's,relatives,and other tribal members have gone through dealing with indian affairs.I view our federal government as a crooked snake with it's body full of politicians,lawyers,and others that contribute to opress indian people,with the new head of snake...obama,should we trust our federal government?....Ask an american indian!
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Wednesday, Dec 16 at 2:17 PM Indian Survival wrote ...
The President needs to ensure that all tribes are recognized by the federal government. Stop the two tiered Indian system. Stop the second class Indian process; and stop people like Chad Smith from working to destroy state recognized tribes, the UKB, the Delaware, and the Freedmen, all for more federal money. We need honor among not only our Indian leaders, but among the U.S. leaders as well.
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Wednesday, Dec 16 at 6:37 AM Candace Colbert Odom wrote ...
Eloise Cobell has brought a tragic injustice to the forefront of the American People. To fix a problem, like in AA you have to accept that there is a problem... However, what is even more tragic is the passing away of those who desperatly, needed this legal debacle to come to an end before they were gone. It has been a long, hard journey for the DOI to finally, decide to give up and say "yes" we treated the IIM account holders wrongly and we should make them whole again. Thank you, Eloise Cobel
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Tuesday, Dec 15 at 11:22 PM john cebula wrote ...
--weathered but proud people. So I ask this of Miss Cobell; Are you happy with this settlement and how does the earnings you and your's stack up to the Native Soul's that have come and gone before you? Does the Raven guide your path or something else? Can you hear the spirit's whisper?
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Tuesday, Dec 15 at 11:03 PM John Cebula wrote ...
I am now 48 years old. Many years ago my mother and Grand Parents told us of the wrongs of the government against our people. Taking of our lands, removal of Indian Children and senseless extermination of a Native people. I read the propaganda placed in the newspaper's and wonder of the monies the lawyer's are to award themselves. If you do the math the little amounts that are going to be distributed to IIM holders,really is not that much. Half pennies for the carrot dangled in front of a weathe
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Monday, Dec 14 at 12:40 PM dmoccasin wrote ...
Still Living in occupied territory... Brave Hearts will arise from the news. In order to recognize the severity of the injudice we must take our own business in our own hands. Brave up men, women, and children..
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Monday, Dec 14 at 12:24 PM Wasichu wrote ...
This news is like a two edged knife that can cut either way. Congratualtions on the President's agreement to settle, but I hope Congress decides to give more than this to the People. $1,000.00 seems to be a pitiful amount of money.
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Sunday, Dec 13 at 9:43 PM Inoccent bystander wrote ...
I don't ever understand why the negotiations or revenues Natives receive from casinos never include procurring more land. Natives are in prime position to getting back some of the land that has been lost. This would prevent future destruction by greedy developers of our "Mother" money is good but to sweeten the deal land should have been offered to make up some of the difference which is ultimately pricess.
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Saturday, Dec 12 at 9:05 PM Wanita M. Smith wrote ...
I'm the last member of my family to be an enrolled member of my tribe and so any funds I receive will be greatly appreciated. I'm very thankful that this class action case came to a close and again I applaud all the hard work and determination of Ms Cobell and her staff of attorneys. Thank you.
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Saturday, Dec 12 at 8:57 PM Syster wrote ...
I have read many published accounts of this. A big black eye is - WHY the secrecy? There's too much at stake here to let forked-tongue writing allow worse than has happened to now: the U.S. gov't will "allow" tribal gov'ts to have a say in how the bought-back parcels are used, the U.S. gov't will keep its' sticky fingers in control/ownership of the "bought back" parcels. NO SECRECY. Let the "deal" be reviewed!!!! Gov't secrecy means LYING.
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Saturday, Dec 12 at 3:30 PM Choctawu wrote ...
Halito,
One my relatives has reserve land near Grand Junction, we have been told today, we must be federal recognized but our ancestors had a Treaties and were dealing with the federal.
After the illegal war by Andrew Jackson in Florida, not sanctioned by Congress. These were are Tribal lands and Reserve. The Federal government began the Allotment period, without the consent of the Choctaw People and then Auction our tribal lands with out payment or compensation for the natural resources.
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Saturday, Dec 12 at 2:43 PM Indian wrote ...
It says something about fractionalized land being consolidated and given/sold to the tribe. What about the mineral rights under that fractionalized land that could be worth millions? Is the settlement going to pay us peanuts for the land and also take away our mineral rights that could potentially be worth millions?
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Saturday, Dec 12 at 6:59 AM Nahegata Gros Ventre wrote ...
Don't be mislead, while the DOI and Cobell have agreed to a settlement, it still requires the U. S. Senate, the House of Reps., and the President to sign it into law. There have been many former instances where Tribes have signed Treaty's withe the U.S. Government representatives, however the U. S. Congress changed the agreements, and basically told the Tribes to accept it, or forget it (and face war). This Cobell lawsuit is not over. Also all 80-100 current Tribal lawsuits are still active.
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Saturday, Dec 12 at 12:53 AM Charlie GoodOne Two wrote ...
All you people forget, this woman won for us a voice to be heard and reckoned with. Did you have a pair to stand up for what is right? She doesn't need them to protect your interest does she? We need more Blackfeet Women Warriors like Mrs. Eloise Cobell, Thank You my Girl
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Friday, Dec 11 at 7:39 PM David Eli Guardipee Blackfeet,enrolled wrote ...
Hello my tribe,has a treaty have you forgot?If you want my land well looks like you are going to break the Treaty.p.s I got a 13 cent lease check in 1999.
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Friday, Dec 11 at 7:08 PM hadawada wrote ...
The only way that the federal government would even consider settling the case is if it is to "their," liking. But with that said Obama has lived up to his word of listening instead of turning a deaf ear to our voices. To suggest that we should hold out would only mean that mean more of the same - nothing would happen.
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Friday, Dec 11 at 7:04 PM more wrote ...
What he didn’t publicly say was that the number was focused not only on ending the individual trust lawsuits involved in Cobell, but a range of tribal and individual Indian cases and future ones that could involve trust matters.
The idea that future litigation could be curbed as a result of a one-time settlement prevented talks from moving forward, Cobell said at the time. She called provisions of the deal “a license to steal.”
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Friday, Dec 11 at 7:03 PM more wrote ...
In the aftermath of the Obama administration settlement, remembrances of that $8 billion figure have loomed large. Some have mistakenly recalled that the idea was a concrete and serious offer from the Bush administration itself, which is not reality.
What is reality is in 2007, former Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne publicly said the Bush administration was willing to consider a settlement in the $7 billion range.
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Lead plaintiff Elouise Cobell helped draft a $27.5 billion legislative proposal for Congress to consider in 2005. She had also argued recently that $46 billion was a key number.
The 2005 proposal went nowhere – federal officials balked – but Sen. John McCain, the Arizona Republican who previously served as leader of the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs, considered a legislative option that would have provided approximately $8 billion to end the case.
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Friday, Dec 11 at 5:57 PM Storm Cloud wrote ...
Dear Ms.Cobell, If this is a win for Indian Country you sound like a BIA school graduate. For your information $3.4 billion is less than even McCains miserable $8 billion offer. Even the interest on what was lost amounts to more than $3.4 billion. If you were willing to settle for so little why did you go to court? To settle out of court they would have settled for more than $3.4 billion. The anthropologists report to feds that "Indians will settle for pennies on the dollar" was right. Sad.
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Friday, Dec 11 at 3:17 PM Mona Raises The Others Reed wrote ...
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Sunday, Jan 10 at 3:59 PM MLee wrote ...
well. They change admin rights in computer, are in the security of the computers, etc. Too much to list here, but it is intelligent and massive. I am sure I dont know it all either. but is technology that was used to their advantage in many areas. Technolgy is the terrorits.
35257784Sunday, Jan 10 at 3:56 PM MLee wrote ...
There is no doubt to me, once the US Gov sees this N tries to correct it, the deceptor will say, but your sins ar great, you did this here n there, that is the one who not only used technology to record these things, but also used technology to create these things by making confusion and anger between nations, all the deceptions. Once it is seen the Lord says, go and sin no more but before you knew, it is not your fault, do not fall to the deception of technology. I have had to learn all to
35257644Sunday, Jan 10 at 3:13 PM MLee wrote ...
It costs next to nothing to make a revision of all the papers, that is one page, or, change one word in the writings to American Indian. Do not let any more deception and lies, nor be called ridiculous. Do not be intimidated, if you are, I will say it. I fear no Man, I fear God only. For the suffering they lead me to God, their fault. For the suffering of so many. Be joyful for much is to be known yet. It is for all of America, and all the people in it. Do not blame for the lies are the deceptio
35255759Sunday, Jan 10 at 3:07 PM MLee wrote ...
Do not let the technology deceive you, what was done. Our market stolen, etc. all will be seen, do not say what will we eat, what will we do. There is plenty of money when it is seen. We are told even all the Glory of Solomon is nothing compare to what is prepared for you. All the lies, technology and deceptions will be seen for what it is. What has been done. For what is done in the dark, will be brought to the light. That means the lies and deception will be known, fear not, only believe.
35255519Sunday, Jan 10 at 2:48 PM MLee wrote ...
There are many Spirits, but only One, Holy Spirit, when it is found in the writing, give the Glory to the Holy Spirit that guides his people. Give no man the Glory, for no Man is Christ, who saves us all. Again, Make sure the Papers say, American Indian any time Indian is mentioned. Do not let the land be stolen. READ all writings. AMT, Land Revitalization, Peace deals, Health care reform, all is make way for the coming Christ, put your faith in no man. For no one is rightous not even one.
35254584Sunday, Jan 10 at 2:01 PM MLee wrote ...
let me make clear, My Grandfather not Bartholamew, my Grandfather raised his children, by hunting, fishing, farming. And Blessed me with much teaching I did not understand till now. Will not tell who he is. And keep his blood as safe as possible, for all the things that have been done already to keep them suppressed. With no need to. A fair and loving people.
35252404Sunday, Jan 10 at 1:57 PM MLee wrote ...
Where there is blood there is life. Even the smallest amount. Like we are told to fully cook our meat, consider the smallest bacteria that can make you sick, it is not only to protect us, but also to show us, even the smallest amount of blood, also the spirit of the blood, even the smallest amount, that cries out for justice. What is right, a peaceful, proud people, for what is right.
35252184Sunday, Jan 10 at 1:51 PM MLee wrote ...
America, One Nation, Under GOD, INDIVISABLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. In this Nation, many mixed bloods, illness brought to this Nation & denied because it is known, for there are many left in Jersey. Bartholamew never would have taken that money if there were not others that needed it. if just him he would not have taken the deal. But he did secure hunting, fishing and farming for those left and that was my GrandFather who taught me much of the ways. And also protected me.
35251867Sunday, Jan 10 at 1:35 PM MLee wrote ...
Ok, I may have figured it out. If this is it. In regards to land acts, make sure where Indian is mentioned, it distinctly states, AMERICAN INDIAN. I truly feel this is where God is leading me. May you be lead by the true living God. Jesus Christ his Son, and the Comforter who is the Holy Spirit, the true Spirit that speaks the truth. Amen.
35250847Saturday, Jan 9 at 5:31 PM MLee wrote ...
Believe what you want, but God says if there is fighting among you, you have already lost, it is time for the twelve elders of the tribes to come together, the weapon is the wood, that is the paper, the new Jerusalem, that is the US. I strongly believe this, it is in the translation of the word. The different tongues and the dialong. the peace agreements, and the coming of the one to save us all. Again, can't explain if no one wants to hear. But read what is the truth, deception wants you to fig
35211572Saturday, Jan 9 at 5:14 PM MLee wrote ...
What no one is catching onto is whether Obama or Bush, both are involved in the UN. They all belong to the big picture we are not privaleged to know about. Be careful who you trust. It is time to look at the land revitalization act that looks to steal all of your lands. China is buying, Obama settled to get you all o ut of the way. Move on from this and look ahead.
35210997Saturday, Jan 9 at 5:07 PM MLee wrote ...
If someone finds the mistakes in the Land revitalization acts and are affraid to address it for retaliation. Just tell me, I will fight and bring it to the attention. We have already been destroyed for being Indian here in OH something to do with OH and CT, this house and the land and my heritage. But is becaue I am not affraid to speak up for all Indians in the US and I will take that stand. If it is the last of my people, and all American Indian Blood, I fear no evil and is why we are destro
35210669Saturday, Jan 9 at 12:44 AM MLee wrote ...
There is much oil in the north section of US not tapped yet, is called Balken oil fields. New technology being developed to drill for this oil. Is supposed to be more then all of Middle East together. Be careful for your land. i do not know history of and just looking since starting these nightmares. But maybe someone else will know. Obama seems scary to me, be careful and read everything even little details. May be just a word but could mean alot. Not sure, just read before signing anything.
35181104Saturday, Jan 9 at 12:40 AM MLee wrote ...
I have had no rest 2mo. I am only Lenapee from S.J. but need to speak to an elder for all Indian Nations. There is something wrong in the writing. I know we don't believe in stuff, but Spirits & ALL kinds of things. Also been put through heck here in Mad. OH. our house is historic INdian we have been financially destroyed to try to get us out of our house. Actions are gang stalking, many join in under lies and hate. To gain our home and destroy us.
35180967Saturday, Jan 9 at 12:36 AM MLee wrote ...
I am concerned of the ramifications the land revitalization act will have, I am concerned about China's interest in buying US land, and the AMT that is going to hit this settlement. I have nothing in it, none comes to me but nightmares of wilting grass, storms and all that is being stolen.
35180734Thursday, Jan 7 at 9:45 PM Crow Warrior wrote ...
So once again we Have to take the Deal from the Devil we all Know! At least make us all millionaires, all the money will all go right back into the Economy anyway and Help that sector anyway!It's the least we should get!
35101856Friday, Jan 1 at 9:59 PM Candace Colbert Odom wrote ...
It would be nice since the original allottees were given 160 acres of land, and a mule to work the land that the govt would give the same amount of money that that land would bring on todays market... I think the mineral rights should stay with the original allottee.
34742269Monday, Dec 28 at 7:02 AM Unique Material wrote ...
"... Not only will it provide some immediate money for poverty-stricken plaintiffs and the promise of education funding, it *does not* include provisions that would *limit future lawsuits*..." The best part.
34450314Sunday, Dec 27 at 1:58 PM mn native wrote ...
i am so in agreement with storm cloud do the math people storm cloud is right or did we settle for the 8 mil and us as reg population of indians thats our share or the lawyers getting it which is well and good and cobell deserves her share as well my yes she does but why if we did not settle for that shame on on it
34421419Saturday, Dec 26 at 11:19 AM Crow Warriior wrote ...
We were defeated by the Whiteman by his bullets, bible ,his guns and his lies. Now it seems we are to settle for pennies of his Frogskin money! It's like buying Manhattan all over again!
34367932Wednesday, Dec 23 at 2:56 PM Real Trust Landowner wrote ...
Kudos are clearly in order for Ms. Cobell for bringing the lawsuit that brought about improvements in IIM account management. However, class members should carefully review the settlement agreement which will award each class member a maximum of $1500 but an incentive award for Ms. Cobell and the three other class representatives a minimum of $15 million(page 49 of agrmnt). This appears an outrageous inequity that smacks of selling out major trust landowners.
34239992Monday, Dec 21 at 5:21 PM Paulette Ruiz wrote ...
I just wondering...When do we see something..how many more years before I can make things happen for my children and grandchildren and Great grandchildren who by the way are Registured members of their Fathers Tribe/ sad since mine doesn't have a Federally Recongnized Tribal Name... but how long must we still wait... the last time I received anything (over 10 yrs) I used it to buy gifts for my children and it was the happiest moment of my life. Now I am Still waiting
34104047Sunday, Dec 20 at 9:15 PM Rocky Mountains wrote ...
Ms. Cobell is to be honored and congratulated, the US government is to be relagated to the dustbin of history for its pathetic attempt at justice. They didn't fight for 15 years because they thought they were wrong, they fought because they still have land and resources to steal and they won't stop until every last Indian is dead.
34041952Sunday, Dec 20 at 1:19 PM tamia wrote ...
Native American Rights Under Assault Where are our leaders and the media? This is happening today, everyday, throughout our country... time we start holding these people accountable and start stepping up and taking care of our own. Call to Action: Sign the online petition "Crow Creek Sioux Land is NOT For Sale" http://www.petitiononline.com/CrowCre... Who Turned Off The Rights For The Residents Of Crow Creek? http://issueswire.com/releases/CAN-DO... IRS sells SD Indian tribe's land
34023594Saturday, Dec 19 at 6:42 PM Crow Warrior wrote ...
Why is it that when the Rip-off Bankers ,who contributed to the breakdown of the American Economy,need a bailout from Taxpayers Via the Govt. they are given billions in practically no time! When the Native Tribes are awarded a minute fraction of what is owed them for centuries of rip offs they Have to wait 'till it's (Approved) This is a trvesty of Justice Justice delayed is justice denied!
33993034Friday, Dec 18 at 6:06 PM James Morasco wrote ...
As a white, ordained minister of the Christian faith, and as a human being, I have been ashamed of the behavior of my government and others who throughout history have committed crimes against humanity "in the name of God." I folowed the Obama meetings with great interest and sincerely hope it marks a turning point in relations with Native peoples. Unfortunatly history isn't in our favor.
33942929Thursday, Dec 17 at 11:23 PM HonorIndians wrote ...
Today the Obama administration, through Hillary Clinton, offered to help developing nations raise 100 Billion per year by 2020 for global warming. Cobell et.al. fight tooth and nail for 13 years and the Obama administration offers U.S. "developing nations" 3.4 billion. Where is the "economic justice" you offered as hope and change?
33886166Thursday, Dec 17 at 2:51 PM tribal member wrote ...
Cobell was truly in a dilemma, that is, continue to listen to the elders cry every single day about their poverty and sufferings? Or appear selfish and apathetic to their needs and fight for another 100 years regardless of all our pain. Who in their right mind NOT listen to the elders? I don’t blame Cobell at all for settling the IIM trust fund. This was truly a dilemma for Cobell. I feel for her.
33855881Wednesday, Dec 16 at 11:55 PM Crying On The Inside wrote ...
Just another knee to the stomach for the Indian people, how can Salazar straight faced say that they can right any wrong made against the native american people! Our brothers and sisters that have passed on are rolling in their graves, it also surprises me that the feds,Obama,DOI,did not offer any whiskey in the deal!
33817484Wednesday, Dec 16 at 5:50 PM rezzie wrote ...
Long overdue. Good going Ms. Cobell!
33798567Wednesday, Dec 16 at 2:52 PM Eyes OpenAs wrote ...
As a native american son,I Have witnessed the hope,frustration,and now bitterness that my parent's,relatives,and other tribal members have gone through dealing with indian affairs.I view our federal government as a crooked snake with it's body full of politicians,lawyers,and others that contribute to opress indian people,with the new head of snake...obama,should we trust our federal government?....Ask an american indian!
33784089Wednesday, Dec 16 at 2:17 PM Indian Survival wrote ...
The President needs to ensure that all tribes are recognized by the federal government. Stop the two tiered Indian system. Stop the second class Indian process; and stop people like Chad Smith from working to destroy state recognized tribes, the UKB, the Delaware, and the Freedmen, all for more federal money. We need honor among not only our Indian leaders, but among the U.S. leaders as well.
33781022Wednesday, Dec 16 at 6:37 AM Candace Colbert Odom wrote ...
Eloise Cobell has brought a tragic injustice to the forefront of the American People. To fix a problem, like in AA you have to accept that there is a problem... However, what is even more tragic is the passing away of those who desperatly, needed this legal debacle to come to an end before they were gone. It has been a long, hard journey for the DOI to finally, decide to give up and say "yes" we treated the IIM account holders wrongly and we should make them whole again. Thank you, Eloise Cobel
33755239Tuesday, Dec 15 at 11:22 PM john cebula wrote ...
--weathered but proud people. So I ask this of Miss Cobell; Are you happy with this settlement and how does the earnings you and your's stack up to the Native Soul's that have come and gone before you? Does the Raven guide your path or something else? Can you hear the spirit's whisper?
33744514Tuesday, Dec 15 at 11:03 PM John Cebula wrote ...
I am now 48 years old. Many years ago my mother and Grand Parents told us of the wrongs of the government against our people. Taking of our lands, removal of Indian Children and senseless extermination of a Native people. I read the propaganda placed in the newspaper's and wonder of the monies the lawyer's are to award themselves. If you do the math the little amounts that are going to be distributed to IIM holders,really is not that much. Half pennies for the carrot dangled in front of a weathe
33743592Monday, Dec 14 at 12:40 PM dmoccasin wrote ...
Still Living in occupied territory... Brave Hearts will arise from the news. In order to recognize the severity of the injudice we must take our own business in our own hands. Brave up men, women, and children..
33641179Monday, Dec 14 at 12:24 PM Wasichu wrote ...
This news is like a two edged knife that can cut either way. Congratualtions on the President's agreement to settle, but I hope Congress decides to give more than this to the People. $1,000.00 seems to be a pitiful amount of money.
33640019Sunday, Dec 13 at 9:43 PM Inoccent bystander wrote ...
I don't ever understand why the negotiations or revenues Natives receive from casinos never include procurring more land. Natives are in prime position to getting back some of the land that has been lost. This would prevent future destruction by greedy developers of our "Mother" money is good but to sweeten the deal land should have been offered to make up some of the difference which is ultimately pricess.
33611707Saturday, Dec 12 at 9:05 PM Wanita M. Smith wrote ...
I'm the last member of my family to be an enrolled member of my tribe and so any funds I receive will be greatly appreciated. I'm very thankful that this class action case came to a close and again I applaud all the hard work and determination of Ms Cobell and her staff of attorneys. Thank you.
33568406Saturday, Dec 12 at 8:57 PM Syster wrote ...
I have read many published accounts of this. A big black eye is - WHY the secrecy? There's too much at stake here to let forked-tongue writing allow worse than has happened to now: the U.S. gov't will "allow" tribal gov'ts to have a say in how the bought-back parcels are used, the U.S. gov't will keep its' sticky fingers in control/ownership of the "bought back" parcels. NO SECRECY. Let the "deal" be reviewed!!!! Gov't secrecy means LYING.
33568199Saturday, Dec 12 at 3:30 PM Choctawu wrote ...
Halito, One my relatives has reserve land near Grand Junction, we have been told today, we must be federal recognized but our ancestors had a Treaties and were dealing with the federal. After the illegal war by Andrew Jackson in Florida, not sanctioned by Congress. These were are Tribal lands and Reserve. The Federal government began the Allotment period, without the consent of the Choctaw People and then Auction our tribal lands with out payment or compensation for the natural resources.
33557791Saturday, Dec 12 at 2:43 PM Indian wrote ...
It says something about fractionalized land being consolidated and given/sold to the tribe. What about the mineral rights under that fractionalized land that could be worth millions? Is the settlement going to pay us peanuts for the land and also take away our mineral rights that could potentially be worth millions?
33556179Saturday, Dec 12 at 6:59 AM Nahegata Gros Ventre wrote ...
Don't be mislead, while the DOI and Cobell have agreed to a settlement, it still requires the U. S. Senate, the House of Reps., and the President to sign it into law. There have been many former instances where Tribes have signed Treaty's withe the U.S. Government representatives, however the U. S. Congress changed the agreements, and basically told the Tribes to accept it, or forget it (and face war). This Cobell lawsuit is not over. Also all 80-100 current Tribal lawsuits are still active.
33542134Saturday, Dec 12 at 12:53 AM Charlie GoodOne Two wrote ...
All you people forget, this woman won for us a voice to be heard and reckoned with. Did you have a pair to stand up for what is right? She doesn't need them to protect your interest does she? We need more Blackfeet Women Warriors like Mrs. Eloise Cobell, Thank You my Girl
33535061Friday, Dec 11 at 7:39 PM David Eli Guardipee Blackfeet,enrolled wrote ...
Hello my tribe,has a treaty have you forgot?If you want my land well looks like you are going to break the Treaty.p.s I got a 13 cent lease check in 1999.
33524417Friday, Dec 11 at 7:08 PM hadawada wrote ...
The only way that the federal government would even consider settling the case is if it is to "their," liking. But with that said Obama has lived up to his word of listening instead of turning a deaf ear to our voices. To suggest that we should hold out would only mean that mean more of the same - nothing would happen.
33522904Friday, Dec 11 at 7:04 PM more wrote ...
What he didn’t publicly say was that the number was focused not only on ending the individual trust lawsuits involved in Cobell, but a range of tribal and individual Indian cases and future ones that could involve trust matters. The idea that future litigation could be curbed as a result of a one-time settlement prevented talks from moving forward, Cobell said at the time. She called provisions of the deal “a license to steal.”
33522729Friday, Dec 11 at 7:03 PM more wrote ...
In the aftermath of the Obama administration settlement, remembrances of that $8 billion figure have loomed large. Some have mistakenly recalled that the idea was a concrete and serious offer from the Bush administration itself, which is not reality. What is reality is in 2007, former Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne publicly said the Bush administration was willing to consider a settlement in the $7 billion range.
33522709Friday, Dec 11 at 7:02 PM did u read about mccains offer above? wrote ...
Lead plaintiff Elouise Cobell helped draft a $27.5 billion legislative proposal for Congress to consider in 2005. She had also argued recently that $46 billion was a key number. The 2005 proposal went nowhere – federal officials balked – but Sen. John McCain, the Arizona Republican who previously served as leader of the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs, considered a legislative option that would have provided approximately $8 billion to end the case.
33522664Friday, Dec 11 at 5:57 PM Storm Cloud wrote ...
Dear Ms.Cobell, If this is a win for Indian Country you sound like a BIA school graduate. For your information $3.4 billion is less than even McCains miserable $8 billion offer. Even the interest on what was lost amounts to more than $3.4 billion. If you were willing to settle for so little why did you go to court? To settle out of court they would have settled for more than $3.4 billion. The anthropologists report to feds that "Indians will settle for pennies on the dollar" was right. Sad.
33519522Friday, Dec 11 at 3:17 PM Mona Raises The Others Reed wrote ...
May God richly bless Cobell, Obama and Salazar!
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