NIGC’s Hogen issues ‘vigorous response’ to call for his replacement

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NIGC’s Hogen issues ‘vigorous response’ to call for his replacement

Response to ICT story posted on Gambling Compliance Web site

By Gale Courey Toensing

WASHINGTON – Phil Hogen, the chairman of the National Indian Gaming Commission has given “a vigorous response” to a story that appeared in Indian Country Today in which the National Indian Gaming Association asked President Barack Obama to replace Hogen and stop the commission from publishing new gaming rules until the new official is in place.

In a posting on the Gambling Compliance Web site, the NIGC chairman said that those calling for his “immediate” replacement misunderstand the new regulation the commission is considering.

In the ICT story, tribal leaders objected to the proposed regulation requiring jackpot payouts to be validated by a backroom accounting system, a technical standard being passed off as a Minimum Internal Controls Standard.

They said the proposal would require a type of technology that is usually patented in a manufacturer’s gaming system, requiring the gaming operation either to have that particular manufacturer’s system or to pay the manufacturer a royalty fee to use its proprietary technology.

Hogen did not respond to requests for comment from ICT for the original story.

But he told Gambling Compliance that the proposed regulation would not require tribes to buy expensive new accounting systems.

“We are not saying to anyone you have to buy any particular piece of equipment.”

Rather, the rules would require tribes to keep track of certain transactions, and, if they do so through an online accounting system, that system must work properly, the report said.

But, in a letter to Obama, Quapaw Tribal Gaming Agency Director Barbara Kyser-Collier said the proposed regulations are “product standards.”

“A most important danger is that such rules could favor certain manufacturers and drive tribal costs higher. Currently, the technology at issue already ranges from $4 million to $40 million, depending on the size of the gaming operation. It is very likely that the cost to tribal governments could exceed $100 million, driving tribal governments with small and marginal operations out of the gaming business altogether.”

Gambling Compliance reiterated complaints from tribal leaders who are “angry over what they claim was a lack of consultation by the NIGC over the new rule.”

Hogen did not respond directly to the tribal leaders’ claim of a lack of consultation.

The Web site also republished a quote from J.R. Matthews, Quapaw Tribe of Oklahoma vice chairman and NIGA treasurer, who also complained that the commission is not abiding by presidential orders to put a hold on new regulations.

“The fact is that Phil Hogen refuses to acknowledge that the former president put out a presidential order that no new regulations were to be issued and President Obama’s chief of staff extended the order until the regulations could be reviewed by President Obama’s newly appointed administrators. Those guys (at NIGC) are out of control.”

Hogen did offer “a terse comment” when asked if he was surprised by NIGA’s call for his replacement, Gambling Compliance said.

“Given the source, I am not surprised,” he said.

Hogen attributed the friction as part of the relationship between a regulator and the industry it oversees, Gambling Compliance reported.

“We are the regulators. We represent the regulated community. There is always some dynamic tension between the two entities.”

In its letter to Obama, NIGA listed a number of executive orders and federal laws that “NIGC should follow.”

The association pointed out that Hogen, a Bush-era appointee, “is holding out for almost five years past his original term,” and urged his immediate replacement and a delay in the publication of any new rules until the new official can review them.

Hogen told Gaming Compliance there’s no need to push him out the door.

“I am eagerly awaiting the president’s appointment of my replacement. I sure hope I am long gone by the time these regulations ever become either proposed regulations or final regulations – and we are a long way from that.”

Sunday, Aug 30 at 10:30 PM Achukma wrote ...

Referencing; California Tribal Member - Corrupt tribal leader(s) happens to be the Secretary of NIGA and corrupt attorney is on the list for Phil Hogen's position and she is a hiree of the corrupt tribal leader as a gaming attorney for that particular tribe. Obama need to be aware - POLITICS AS USUAL with NIGA and these tribes..PRESIDENT OBAMA should get someone from outside the beltway!

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Sunday, Aug 30 at 10:16 AM Max Bet wrote ...

The real issue with most small indian casinos is that the General Manager controls the addicted people so about 75% with players cash, rooms, drinks, and meals and gets the corrupt people elected. So with all this corruption surrounding Indian Gaming is he also being bought? There is no regulations at 4-Bears in North Dakota the manager runs the Council and is stealing everything, our oil is his.

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Friday, Aug 28 at 8:47 AM Non Gambler wrote ...

Phil Hogan is a bureacrat and like the rest, don't know and don't care about what goes on in indian country. When called upon by the Tribal Chairman to investigate corruption at the local casino, he didn't! Now the casino manager has bought and paid for the tribal elections, blackmails all the tribal council and the whole system is corrupted...all because Hogan wouldn't hear the tribal leader to do his job and investigate. Leave now! Go somewhere else.

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Thursday, Aug 27 at 7:56 AM Achukma wrote ...

Barbara Collier is not a Tribal Leader and neither is JR Matthews. JR represents NIGA along with Ernie Stevens........Neither of these individual(s) have authority to speak in behalf of Quapaw Tribe. JR is under internal investigation for corruptness within Quapaw Tribe. Nor, he is presently the Vice-Chairman of the Quapaw Tribe due to election-reviews. Tribe remains in limbo pending full-review. I presume JR Matthews is representing himself and no-one else.

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Wednesday, Aug 26 at 8:26 PM Anonymous wrote ...

Replace Hogen, he is a disgrace to the NIGC. Obama you are the president of the USA. Do right for the Tribes with Gaming Casinos.

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Friday, Aug 21 at 8:54 PM Marty wrote ...

Phil Hogen has forgot more about MICS's per Indian Gaming than any of you naysayers combined. That's not an opinion that is a fact. All this Bush vs. Obama politico appointment garbage...nonsense.....All tribes, gaming or non-gaming better hope for an appointment that reflects the integrity of Mr. Hogen.

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Friday, Aug 21 at 3:42 PM Steve wrote ...

I am perplexed by the view that the Tribes NEED National Regulatory oversight. And to be honest, I do agree with a certain level of oversight, but what is rather puzzling is there is no cry to have National Regulatory oversight for the private gaming industry’s which includes the 48 of the States that have, and regulate their own gaming. Maybe it is old Andrew Jackson throwback sentiment. Steve

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Friday, Aug 21 at 3:19 PM sicangu too wrote ...

I have worked with the NIGC when they were developing the original MICs and know that their regulation language can be ambiguous. Hogan is probably right as to the regulation not being as complicated as people think. Most all casino's are already in compliance. NIGC just had to put it into writing to earn their salaries.

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Friday, Aug 21 at 2:43 PM Supermama wrote ...

REGULATE INDIAN GAMING NOW!

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Friday, Aug 21 at 9:28 AM Sicangu wrote ...

It is clear the he does not either understand the regulations he is proposing or he is purposefully being misleading. I wonder if it might be both.

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Friday, Aug 21 at 7:36 AM California Tribal Member wrote ...

This is just a lot of whining by corrupt tribal leaders and their crooked lawyers, Indian gaming needs meaningful oversight, and jail time for the rotten apples. It is time to clean house!

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Thursday, Aug 20 at 10:38 PM Lakota wrote ...

He should have been gone a long time ago,,,,,He's a John Wayne or Indian fighter.....why do u think Bush put him in place.

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Thursday, Aug 20 at 4:34 PM Thunderheart wrote ...

Larry Echohawk is the ruiner of Indain Country with his rush to order a illegal casino openings! He is not a real NDN, just a breakoff - splinter(HR2822ers) spreading culture cenocide with INDIAN COUNTRY1 He needs to be replaced! ASAP!!!!!!

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Thursday, Aug 20 at 4:23 PM NdN reader wrote ...

He needs to be replaced ASAP!! He has done more harm to Indian Tribes Gaming than any other person so far! I hope the President hears NIGA's request and those of the Tribal leaders!

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