Taliman: Selling the sacred
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Valerie Taliman
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| The man responsible, self-help spiritual entrepreneur James Arthur Ray, claimed the New Age retreat would absolutely “change your life.” |
JamesARay: “Day 5 of SPW. The Spiritual Warrior has conquered death and therefore has no enemies, and no fear, in this life or the next.”
After fleeing the scene, Ray posted a message on Twitter saying he was spending the weekend “praying and meditating at this difficult time” and asked others to do the same.
Ray has been selling his ceremonies on how to become a Spiritual Warrior for at least seven years, according to the owners of the Angel Valley Spiritual Retreat who annually rent their property to him, “tee pees” included.
His version of ceremony included a release of liability telling participants they may experience “physical, emotional, financial or other injuries” during the five-day personal spiritual quest in the wilderness without food or water, or in the sweat lodge.
Who does that? Only a huckster posing as the real thing.
What right does Ray have to mimic, mangle, and manipulate Native ceremonies that have been carefully handed down among indigenous cultures over millennia? Ray does not own any rights to Native spirituality, because they are owned collectively by indigenous peoples and cannot be sold.
Alvin Manitopyes, a healer from the Cree, Anishnawbe and Assiniboine nations, explained that “in a sweat lodge ceremony there is so much more going on than we can actually observe with our five senses. The sweat lodge leader has to have the capacity to work with the spirit world and the sacred energies for the benefit of the people inside the lodge. The intent of the ceremony is to purify ourselves inside and out and restore balance within ourselves.”
He cautioned that some non-Native people attend and observe Indian sweat lodge ceremonies and think they can do it themselves without the proper teachings and spiritual mandate from the spirit world to conduct such ceremonies.
“Our elders conduct sweat lodge ceremonies out of love for their people to help them in their healing and spiritual growth. When someone attaches a price tag to the ceremony, then the sacredness is gone and it comes down to them playing around with our sacred ceremonies,” he said.
Selling the sacred has been around for a long time, and Ray is just the latest to capitalize on it. Native healers and spiritual leaders have been speaking out for decades about the abuse of sacred ceremonies, and continue to oppose the appropriation and exploitation of sacred ceremonies.
In 1993, some 500 representatives of the Lakota, Dakota and Nakota nations held an international gathering in South Dakota and unanimously passed the “Declaration of War Against Exploiters of Lakota Spirituality,” denouncing individuals involved in the New Age movement, shamanism, cultists, and neo-paganists and others who promote “intolerable and obscene imitations of sacred Lakota rites.”
“For too long we have suffered the unspeakable indignity of having our most precious Lakota ceremonies and spiritual practices desecrated, mocked and abused by non-Indian wannabes, hucksters, cultists, and self-styled New Age shamans and their followers,” the Declaration of War reads.
| Selling the sacred has been around for a long time, and Ray is just the latest to capitalize on it. |
Wilmer Mesteth, a traditional spiritual leader and Lakota culture instructor at Oglala Lakota College, told the summit that “sacred traditions like our Lakota Pipe ceremony, vision quests, sweat lodge ceremonies and the sundance were given to us by our Creator and have enabled Indian people to survive a 500 year holocaust. Those sacred traditions are precious to us and can’t allow them to be desecrated and abused.”
“We have to put a stop to it,” Mesteth said. “We are the ones who were given these ceremonies so that the people would remain together and strong. We were told to take care of these ceremonies so that our children and their children would have future. For too long, we stood by and watched this abuse going on and we see how it is affecting the people. Now it’s time to take a stand to defend our people and our ways.”
Alex White Plume, former president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe and a strong traditionalist, said Lakota people are continuing to discuss ways to stop this theft of ceremony. He says people who are bastardizing ceremonies don’t realize the harm that can come from it.
I wonder when they will ever learn.
Valerie Taliman, Navajo, is president of Three Sisters Media and is an award-winning journalist specializing in environmental, social justice and human rights issues. She is based in Albuquerque, N.M. and is a columnist for Indian Country Today. Contact her at valerietaliman@gmail.com.
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Monday, Nov 2 at 1:23 PM Geraldine T. Black Elk-Clifford wrote ...
The LAKOTA NATION used to have Warrior Societies that had the responsibility of "Dealing" with those that messed with our ceremonies..There are people that are known as WHIPKEEPERS.That is how we kept our nation in line.AS EVERYONE CAN SEE, MR.SELFCLAIMED HEALER ALREADY LOST HIS MIND.HE IS DELAT WITH.& NO MATTER WHAT, THE BLOOD IS ON HIS HANDS.
31469364 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Thursday, Oct 29 at 7:11 PM newcomb wrote ...
Turtle Prints wrote: "If there is a non-native, who is sincere I have no problem with the idea of sharing our wonderful culture." I'm sure there are many non-Native people who do a great job of educating Conceptually about certain aspects of Native cultures. That is not the same as non-Natives appropriating indigenous ceremonial forms for profit, and harming (killing) people in the process. As far as I'm concerned, they can stick to motivational speaking and / or nature walks and meditation.
31304993 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Friday, Oct 23 at 2:49 PM cb in nd wrote ...
They are not that successful if they are paying someone $9,000 to tell them what they want to hear! Where is their education in that thinking?
31020527 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Friday, Oct 23 at 11:20 AM anonymous wrote ...
ABC's Robin Roberts interviewed Beverly Bunn, a survivor this morning, on 10/23/09. "WHY DID YOU STAY IN THAT TENT FOR SO LONG?" Bev: "This was the pinnacle event, a very safe place, these were astronomical people we were with, highly successful people, high achievers that pushed themselves to the 9th degree." This woman was a dentist. So, it means some people may be highly successful financially but they sure as heck are dumb as--. Whites are losing it, and we'll see more in the recession.
31010387 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Friday, Oct 23 at 9:15 AM Turtle Prints wrote ...
@Monday, Oct 19 at 6:14 PM newcomb wrote ... I have to agree with you. As an Aboriginal I am tired of hearing people rant & rave about "secrets" and how things "need to be kept to ourselves." Many of the youth (in many nations) are not interested in the old ways. If there is a non-native, who is sincere I have no problem with the idea of sharing our wonderful culture. Historically, this is how cultures have survived...by passing it around. It is in essence a "culture" is it not?
31003127 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Friday, Oct 23 at 9:04 AM Turtle Prints wrote ...
@Native Strong Hold You bigot. And you claim to be a "spiritual leader?" That is scary and sad. Your statements speak for themselves and reveal that you still have alot to learn.
31002442 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Thursday, Oct 22 at 8:27 PM SimpleTruth wrote ...
Native Strong Hold, In regards to what you said about mixed bloods and whites... I hope that your children and your children's children will not deviate from your "pure" blood line of whatever tribe you are from, because if that ever happens you will have to make the same statement to them; worse yet if you already do have "mixed" children or grandchildren that you have to feel that way about your descendants that you were supposed to teach.
30981947 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Wednesday, Oct 21 at 6:43 PM tekpat opoxtli wrote ...
this guy must be on a "spiritual run" from the law... the thief and lack of dignity journeys
30925261 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Wednesday, Oct 21 at 11:30 AM Rosie wrote ...
I am amixed blood and did't know anythin about anything about my native part til about 1990.I amalways careful with new things.The first time I went to a sweatloge I did not enter it.I feel people should be more respectful of other people and there believes.None of any ceremonies do cost any money!People should be careful if they are asked to pay then there is something wrong.I talk to my creator when I wake up an the last prayer when I go to sleep and it cost nothing.
30902022 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Wednesday, Oct 21 at 12:24 AM Still Amazed wrote ...
Would a Native who had run an event where two-- now three-- people had died, been allowed to leave the state and not even talk to police? I have to wonder...
30878588 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Oct 20 at 3:36 PM cm wrote ...
What a sad and tragic way to learn a valuable lession.
30858091 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Oct 20 at 2:08 PM just a thought wrote ...
I remember hearing from my elders as a kid growing up "if you don't know the songs, prayers, and teachings of a ceremony you leave it alone because if you perform it and it becomes a wrong how will you fix it?" The Ray guy never thought about that.
30853462 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Oct 20 at 1:06 PM Kainaikii Charlene from Canada wrote ...
Anyway, we look at it we are all human. The world's craziness is making us all insane. We have created such confusion and we have no control over other. As much as we want to control others the world is as it is However, I am tired of the world and atrocities like this...and therefor have no comment for and against. It is wrong by my measures! I am sure someone will atack what I have said and for that, I pray to my creator for us all!On a that note your comment reflectively made me smile/frown!
30849793 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Oct 20 at 9:11 AM FullBldNative wrote ...
Serves them right for making a mockery of Native traditions the spirit world is not something to mock around with. Find your own ceremonies, why does everyone wannnabe Native? Great article Taliman.
30837077 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Oct 19 at 5:17 PM newcomb wrote ...
the last sentence was intended to say "as plain as the deceased victims." (ran out of letters).
30813336 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Oct 19 at 5:14 PM newcomb wrote ...
Anonymous wrote: "I am shocked to read so much hate and anger in this article. And by a supposedly Native American?" Sensible outrage and inidignation is reflected in the article by one of our most outstanding Native writers. It's not a matter of keeping wisdom secret. That isn't the issue at all. The issue is charlatans masquerading as people qualified to conduct ceremonies that have real and sometimes tragic consequences if abused. The evidence of that is as plain as the deceased victim
30813168 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Oct 19 at 2:33 PM Beware of flakes wrote ...
Multimillionaire Oprah Winfrey promoted James Arthur Ray several times on her show and as a result, he became more famous plus a multimillionaire. And she still actively promotes New Age flakes by way of her continuous spiritual innuendos which holds captive audiences around the world. She makes A LOT of money off the suffering of people.
30804798 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Oct 19 at 8:39 AM Mike George wrote ...
Has anyone stopped to consider that this tragedy might contain a message? Maybe spreading the true spiritual purpose for these ceremonies might bring many people closer to sprit.
30784928 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Oct 19 at 7:44 AM SquawLaw wrote ...
No one wins with savage traditions
30782402 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Oct 19 at 12:44 AM SomeGuy wrote ...
This is just sad. I am mixed blood and used to sweat but got sick of being considered indian one day and white the next so I ultimately stopped going- not to say that there aren't real lodges out there. I found out years later that the leader at the lodge where I received said treatment was stripped of his medicine for being disrespectful and abusive to others. Even this guy didn't withhold water, force fasting or keep people from leaving the lodge early. Mr. Ray needs to be brought to justice!
30775686 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Sunday, Oct 18 at 8:02 PM Aache Warrior - Arizona wrote ...
If you have ever been to Sedona, it is the New Age Capital of the nation. People from all over the world visits the place. Local greedy business men like James Ray capitalize and prey on the unsuspecting foreigners. Like Gallup,NM the center stage is the lucrative Indian jewlery market. This is the place where they buy jewlery cheap from the Indians and inflate the prices for hugh profits. Marketing the "Red-Man" is nothing new here. You see wooden Indians on every corner. Inocent people died.
30767392 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Sunday, Oct 18 at 1:10 PM robert petersen wrote ...
strong hold, I guess cause I'm mixed blood I'm doomed but singing and sweating and hunting and fishing and fasting and telling coyote stories and seeking wisdom from father Raven sure seemed like native life to me.I'm sorry to say firewater and sugar took him from us way too soon but his spirit and his heart song walk with me every day. My grandchildren will have only 1/16 Cherokee blood but I will teach them the true way whether others like it or not-only the Great Mystery knows our hearts.
30754968 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Sunday, Oct 18 at 1:01 PM Anonymous wrote ...
I am shocked to read so much hate and anger in this article. And by a supposedly Native American? This culture fascinating and it is sad to try to keep the wisdom a secret. EVERY spiritual teaching starts with one person or group ( whoever is connected to the source) and then it spreads around. Look at other great teachings.Your spiritual masters did not make mistake by sharing the great wisdom; they were following their higher self. Please try not to undermine them.
30754748 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Sunday, Oct 18 at 1:01 PM International Declaration wrote ...
The white actors are all the same, from corporations that act like thugs encroaching on the lands of the indigenous people draining & sucking up our resources to multimillionaire New Age entrepreneurs stealing indigenous spiritual medicine. Where is the Universal Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples? Where is a "Declaration Against Exploiters of Indigenous Spirituality"? We, the indigenous Peoples of the America's are beginning to get mad as hell.
30754733 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Sunday, Oct 18 at 12:44 PM Rev. R.K. Cottell wrote ...
This is such a huge problem for indigenous people. I am Hawaiian and this story reminds me of so many "luaus" on the beach where our people are portrayed as idiots, our traditions turned into novelties, our history ignored. However, I view things like this tragedy as the opportunity to make right historical wrongs. This is such a sad thing to have happen and my aloha is with you all!
30754188 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Sunday, Oct 18 at 12:08 PM Lotus flower wrote ...
Is it not possible for native Indians to come back to earth as something other than Indian? I always viewed native Indians as wise, generous and spiritual people. But after viewing comments it feels like many have a us versus others mentality... That does not feel very spiritual. I would prefer to have the view that native Indians have strong moral and spirituality and want to share and spread their views to all humaity to make the world a better place. So without blame ... What is the truth?
30753277 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Sunday, Oct 18 at 11:52 AM This is nothing but retribution wrote ...
I can't help but wonder if this is also the start of Great Spirit's judgment on the Red race for declaring part-Native Blacks with straight hair and noses who were mixed between 1700-1900 "not part of the Red Race", but eagerly claiming blonde blue eyed Whites whose forefathers raped your grandmothers as "Indian". I doubt that has gone unnoticed by the Creator. You agree with the White man's race hatred of "inferior blacks", so partake in his misadventures with your religion. You're brothers.
30752853 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Sunday, Oct 18 at 10:02 AM WldHair wrote ...
I hear whites on here complaining that many of the responses from Natives are racist, and that they should have a right to these rituals because they had a wonderful experience. One even stated that they were "closer to God." Uh, which God is that? The Christian one? I'm not a Native and I'm not White. I've watched first hand though how Whites help themselves to other people's culture, but for them it becomes a money making venture. THAT's THE PROBLEM!
30749648 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Saturday, Oct 17 at 11:22 AM Jsens wrote ...
I agree with the opinion, but it is probably impossible to stop outright stupidity. I have no sympathy for well heeled idiots who paid over nine thousand dollars to take part in this farce. As P.T.Barnum is supposed to have said, "There's a sucker born every minute."
30719028 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Friday, Oct 16 at 3:14 PM Dr James L Lee, DDS, Cherokee wrote ...
July 19, 1941 Redbird Stomp Ground. I was present at the beginning of a long trail of Indian Traditions violation. That day, the annual, traditional Cherokee meeting. On that day many visitors from the armed forces and civilians were present. Cameras and minds recorded the event.. Commercilization was not far behind. recorded recorded these proceedings
30686942 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Friday, Oct 16 at 12:39 PM they come in all colors wrote ...
what about the guy who is on the sexual offenders list and runs these things without being upfront? yeah he works in the dark!!
30678703 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Friday, Oct 16 at 11:43 AM PeaceDove3 wrote ...
Regardless of race, creed and ethnic origin, it is indeed a sad day when individuals purporting to be “Spiritual Leaders” become so full of themselves, and become nothing more than “Paid Entertainers.” Self-sacrifice, fasting and spiritual cleansing means nothing to individuals when ethics becomes compromised.
30675383 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Friday, Oct 16 at 10:37 AM shandiin wrote ...
There is so much wrong with the whole thing...you can't abuse these things with out getting hurt or hurting someone(which sadly to the families has happened)Sounds like he has the "messiah" syndrome...if he is twittering during his so called "ceremony" Spirituality is a very personal thing...to sell and advertise is not our way of respecting the practice of these things. YES!STOP TRYING!
30671452 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Thursday, Oct 15 at 5:55 PM Dr. Jerry Stubben wrote ...
I feel that what is happening now is that the spirits are intervening in the abuse of such ancient ways. Anyone can sweat but they should know who they are sweating with and look around, if there are more non-natives than natives....perhaps one should walk away, especially if alot of money is required....give some wood, food, gas money, a gift from the heart, a favored blanket, a good story, a new tarp, cedar, more food...but not thousands of dollars.
30640152 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Thursday, Oct 15 at 2:10 PM Greg McDonald wrote ...
I agree with the tone and tenor of this article, and am ashamed our culture continues to colonize and debase other cultures and their practices, especially the spiritual ones. This happens because people feel a spiritual emptiness at the heart of our own culture. As a practitioner of Buddhist meditation I experience more healing than I did in my church. Fortunately, my Burmese lineage does not charge money for retreats, and we respect our Hindu teacher. Karma is real, as is the spirit world.
30628723 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Thursday, Oct 15 at 1:02 PM Wanbli wrote ...
This happen, simply, because of the values, norms and rewards of Americanism, that this white man was domesticated in. Imperialism!!!, Capitalism!!!, and Greed!!! If you can’t agree with that then your simply colonized and naive and most likely, a treaty signer and a sisy. Which is alienated from our traditional and spiritual “Earth Views” and our societies and are incapable of reasoning simple logical object lessons for themselves needless to say for the future of theirs and our red children.
30624638 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Thursday, Oct 15 at 12:03 PM Still Amazed wrote ...
I still cannot believe this man jammed over 50 people into a sweat lodge for hours, and thought that was at all appropriate. Its not the first time someone has died in a sweat lodge, but maybe the media and legal repercussions in this case will make some of these plastic shaman types find something else to do.
30620542 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Thursday, Oct 15 at 9:52 AM Lulu wrote ...
There's alot of this going around, I have read many articles about people dying in sweatlodges this doesnt surprise me at all. Trying to profit off a culture always backfires, its called karma. Its tragic that people have to die but they abuse these ceremonies and it shouldn't be happening.
30612423 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Thursday, Oct 15 at 8:23 AM pmrgrl wrote ...
all we ask for is respect
30607472 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Thursday, Oct 15 at 8:21 AM pmrgrl wrote ...
the lose of lives is tragic so are the injuries inflicted this is the perfect opportunity to discuss this topic i feel for those individuals seeking assistance and not getting it it angers me that an individual who DOES NOT have the traditional teachings could charge people who ask for assistance this is sooooo wrong on many levels this is our culture and tradition it should be held sacred by everyone not just us
30607411 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Wednesday, Oct 14 at 11:58 PM Ska Tatanka Winyan wrote ...
Is that right?If you are born white,mixed,or just don't know,you will never experience the native experience.You should be a little more concerned about the 2 people that lost their lives.They were innocents seeking a better way.This Ray person co-wrote a book and claimed to have all the answers.They did not deserve what happened to them.Your comment is very offensive and racist.Now you assume to have all the answers.So are you any better than him?The good red road is for ANYONE that chooses it.
30597538 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Wednesday, Oct 14 at 11:57 PM Susan wrote ...
So who exactly was pouring the water? Was this man doing it himself? If he knows anything, he should know things do not begin here, nor do they end here. And Indian or non Indian, you first have to learn about the spirit world and those that work with us from that side. That seems to be too much for people who were not born into that natural situation., Also we all know things are not as they were. Many so called spiritual leaders are stealing people blind. Clean up our own lodge first.
30597507 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Wednesday, Oct 14 at 6:43 PM california wrote ...
I just want everyone to know how my short exposure to some of the Red Road ceremonies made me a better person. It touched my heart and opened my eyes to so much that is wonderful about the world we live in. Please don't let the actions of some stupid white people make us all seem like scum. I am not perfect but the ceremonies I was a part of really did change me, and I will be forever grateful to the men that allowed me to participate, even though they didn't owe me a thing. Thanks.
30586871 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Wednesday, Oct 14 at 6:34 PM california wrote ...
I am a white guy and I was lucky to be invited to a sweat lodge in Northern California when I was a teen. It changed me and made me a better person for the rest of my life. I learned about the spirit world and now I believe in God. I learned respect and honor toward Indian spiritual practices. I would NEVER try to steal or imitate these ceremonies without full training. Anyone who has been lucky enough to experience the real thing should never insult or degrade the tradition by selling it. Love
30586563 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Wednesday, Oct 14 at 5:49 PM Holy Offering Woman wrote ...
I am not impress of what happen to these people that used our sacred ceremonies in the wrong way, I was taught the right way to do things in our ceremonies. If we do things the wrong way and aren't taught to do it the right way, you face the consequences that will happen to you. You don't do cermonies unless you are taught the right way of doing things in the proper way or you will get hurt. This is a sad tragedy for people to try and do sweat ceremonies that are not the proper way of doing it
30584792 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Wednesday, Oct 14 at 3:15 PM Lawrence wrote ...
The Oinikagapi was gifted as essential to the male purpose. As the young man reaches his maturity, he will sacrifice four days and nights without food or water during Hanbleceya..In this way he becomes Head of Household for his woman and future generation. As such, he gains permission from the Creator to spread his seed in a sacred manner. He then earns the 'right' to pour water for his children and others. Too many times, this right is overlooked and this is what happens.
30577113 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Wednesday, Oct 14 at 1:45 PM warned wrote ...
I am 70 years old and as a child I was wardned against our Native rituals. If you aren't clean you have no place being around these powerful rituals. In my tribe we have many young people who have been told these rituals are not for the fun of it. But even the older one don't listen. They bring their dope smoking white wannabe friends into the sweats and share their rituals with anyone that asks. Our songs and prayers are sacred and only those who are trained should be doing them.
30571467 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Wednesday, Oct 14 at 1:22 PM D-Man wrote ...
If this Spiritual Warrior Camp has tax exempt status (as reported in another article) how can they charge $9000 for this and the IRS is okey dokey with it? If I tried that, I would be locked up. Buyer beware.
30570048 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Wednesday, Oct 14 at 1:09 PM Anonymous wrote ...
I was surprised to read such hate of a whole people...not every one who is white fits in to the Imperalist wannabe stupid and colonizing faction. When you generalize so badly, aren't you acting and being just like the white, imperalist, ego driven, spiritless colonists you seem to despise??
30569251 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Wednesday, Oct 14 at 12:22 PM Clarissa Jean Skeets wrote ...
I chuckled when I first saw this on the tele; now they're in heaven; as for those who sold the spiritual cleansing-cursed.
30566372 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Wednesday, Oct 14 at 3:30 AM Corey wrote ...
Actually, LeadMare, in our tribal culture we do "own" our "rights" according to our ancient teachings. We do not own the Creator, we know that. But gaining spritual "rights" is something one earns, according to protocol given to us by the Creator. It is up to "us" as Indians to say what our cultural protocols are, not you or other outsiders. I hope our Indian people who love to give away our teachings realize just what exactly it is they are doing.
30543927 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Oct 13 at 9:21 PM SA wrote ...
"We can all take and learn from each other's rituals and traditions." - Spoken like a true colonialist white person.
30535588 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Oct 13 at 7:41 PM KenRussell wrote ...
"I wonder when they will ever learn" They will learn when they stop feeding the evil wolves called greed and ego, and instead feed the good wolves called generousity and compassion. As long as the sheep can be lured, the evil will win.
30532442 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Oct 13 at 7:11 PM Anonymous wrote ...
When I first heard about this I said, "Oh buh!" But it's sad two were killed in the process. I wonder what members of this group were seeking-spiritual help? or were they curious, wanting a thrill of something "exotic"? Either way I hope it's a deterrent for people who have no business messing with things they don't fully understand. Unfortunately commidifying Native religion, looks, etc. is never going to go away.
30531422 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Oct 13 at 6:38 PM Kinew wrote ...
Migwech for your words on this. Leadmare your confused. Wanbli your all in your head with your leftist dribble. This man got what he brought to himself plain and simple. And it does not belong to everyone. Period.
30530247 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Oct 13 at 6:01 PM dee olin wrote ...
People are born with spirit. The problem is they do not know how to lead their lives without someone else telling them how. From the moment I was born into my Indian life I was not told what to do but shown. As I stumbled I discovered the why and how of keeping and protecting a strong spirit. This is ometto keep my show to keep a strong spirit. my
30529023 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Oct 13 at 2:08 PM P wrote ...
When people tell you who they are, believe them. Leaving the scene so quickly speaks louder than any condolences he could express on his website or in a "tweet".
30519216 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Oct 13 at 12:17 PM luna wrote ...
Sadly enough even here in cali there are people, even native people, selling native ways to anyone that will buy.I hope this is a warning for all those that seek immediate spirituality without putting forth the effort.
30513696 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Oct 13 at 10:58 AM LeadMare wrote ...
I find this article sadly unenlightened, lacking in wisdom, and full of what Chogyam Trungpa calls "spiritual materialism." No one owns the sacred rites that connect us to Great Spirit/God/dess/All That Is--not Indians, Christians, Muslims, or Jews. We can all take and learn from each other's rituals and traditions. It seems Ray got greedy with his own ill-fated scourge of spiritual materialism. That is the lesson. Not that sincere spiritual seekers should lay off cross-cultural ceremonies.
30509166 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Oct 13 at 10:54 AM nmichelle wrote ...
He'll have to answer now. I don't think we will have to defend our ceremonies much longer. They will do it for us. They will regulate themselves with their laws. They'll have to prove their native ancestry to perform these ceremonies freely. They can't regulate spiritualism/religion for us on our own ground.
30508952 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Oct 13 at 10:33 AM Wanbli wrote ...
The acceptance of this Imperialist Capitalistic Empire and the assimilation into the destructive materialistic and its consumer driven values, norms and rewards of this white nationalist society is the “root cause” for the symptoms of the exploitation and dehumanization of our ceremonies, our land bases, our children and our sovereignty
30508066 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Oct 13 at 10:30 AM Wanbli wrote ...
It’s not just this one individual- it’s been years of all our so called IRA and BIA leadership and they’re supporters that continues give their allegiances to this “oppressive unjust corrupt order” "The US Empire" over the will of our Creator and his children; are the ones that are truly guilty of culture genocide to “The Flowering Hoop”!
30507928 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Oct 13 at 10:15 AM Native Strong Hold wrote ...
I thought this was a sad tragedy that happen to them. Well, if I were white I would have researched what the risks are and be rather selective of who I go to as a spiritual leader. I guess Education is not everything after all! That's what they all get for trying to seek for something they are not. If you are born white, mixed, or just don't know, you will never experience what a real Native life is like because you don't have the kind of spirituality we as people experienced. Stop trying!
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