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Russell: Is it a good day to be Indigenous?

By Steve Russell, Today columnist

Everybody has ancestors. We don’t pick them, but they in some sense made us who we are. It is good to honor our ancestors when they have been honorable even as we live down their faults. We don’t get the choice of basking in their reflected glory while ignoring that which is inglorious or even ugly.

I suppose my full-blooded Cherokee great–grandfather Henry Teehee and my Dutch settler great-grandfather Samuel Van Hooser were on opposite sides of a social conflict about which I have strong opinions in the 21st century, but I am still descended from both of them and would never deny either.

I was thinking about this when I wrote a couple of columns about the denial of tenure at the University of Michigan to Andrea Smith, who has in the past claimed to be Cherokee. After speaking to her, I’m satisfied that claim is in the past and her academic credentials should stand for what they are – impressive.

I thought about this again when I saw that the University of Nebraska Press is publishing “The World Wolf Made: Indigenous Knowledge, Ecology, and Evolutionary Biology” by the “Comanche scholar” Raymond Pierotti.

In the interest of full disclosure, I tried to enter my only book in a competition the University of Nebraska Press holds for Indian, first-book authors, and they turned me down even before the deadline for the competition. My entry was so awful it was not even necessary to see what else came in. So I have been whacked pretty hard by that press and you may not choose to take my word that I hold no grudge. I am not as qualified as the University of Nebraska Press to say whether my book was worthy of consideration and I accept their judgment.

Prof. Pierotti has been outed by the Comanche Nation, but it’s just as significant that he was outed by his own brother. This is the thing I as a mixed blood who has chosen to retain tribal citizenship have always wondered: what do the living European relatives of fake Indians think of the fantasy? What about the European ancestors of fake Indians? Are they erased from human memory by the fraud of their descendants?

Some years ago, I was privileged to visit the Netherlands as a tourist. I had a great time and I recommend the experience, but that experience did not involve reconnection to my “Dutch roots.” I have no Dutch roots. I was born and raised in Oklahoma and my known roots go back to when it was called Indian Territory. That’s who I’ve always been and I would not go to Europe for the purpose of becoming somebody else.

For some reason, lots of folks have decided it’s a good day to be indigenous. Now, I’ve got no problem with Prof. Pierotti writing about traditional ecological knowledge. But like every other scholar, he needs to cite his sources, and I would hope he understands that there is no pan-tribal ecological tradition. In one of his chapter titles, he asks “Who Speaks for the Buffalo?” I expect him to claim that he does. The publisher’s blurb claims that Pierotti provides “a fascinating look at the complexities of his career conducting research from an Indigenous perspective and the reluctance of many university Native programs of study to recruit natural scientists.”

Native studies programs generally come in two flavors. Some have a humanities focus and some a social science focus. It’s true that a natural scientist would not be an easy fit for programs asking about the representation of horses in Joy Harjo’s poetry or how much jurisdiction the U.S. Supreme Court intends to leave for tribal courts.

In spite of the biases of Indian studies programs, Prof. Pierotti appears to claim that he has had “a career conducting research from an indigenous perspective.” I wonder whose indigenous perspective he has been using, since the Comanche Nation repossessed theirs.

Is there a Comanche ecological tradition or a Plains Indian ecological tradition? I’m not informed at this time, but I know several real Comanches I can ask. My own research often turns on what is fair, and I don’t think my ethnicity gives me seriously different ideas about what is fair.

Speaking of what is fair, I’m about to retire, and the Netherlands was a pretty nice place. And I was looking at what made Prof. Pierotti a Comanche. The argument in his family was over whether the kids were told stories about a Comanche ancestor.

Is the issue whether the stories were in fact told? It seems tacky to call a dead person a liar, so if stories make the man Pierotti is Comanche and I’m indeed Dutch.

Is the issue whether the stories are in fact true? That’s harder for Pierotti, but I still get to be Dutch because Samuel Van Hooser’s grave is marked in a family cemetery not far from his homestead in Missouri, which I still own. Of course, I never met my Dutch ancestor just as Pierotti never met his Comanche one, if such existed.

Thanks to something called blood quantum, many Indians today take blood to be culture. A full blood is assumed to speak the language and know the history and maybe even be a non-Christian. Chop the blood degree and less cultural competence is assumed. Non-Indians make the same assumption, of course, but it is stranger that Indians do because we all know somebody who does not fit the stereotype.

Blood is a metaphor, folks, and we confuse it with what it represents. If that’s not so, then everybody with an Indian ancestor they never met is in some sense Indian. If culture doesn’t count, I suppose we need not fear assimilation, because we will always have the blood. Hot dog, I’m Dutch! I can prove it! The Netherlands has better health care than IHS and a social safety net that makes ours look like a spider web. They have a much more civilized criminal justice system, too, but I wouldn’t be going there to work.

On the other hand, they have no national cuisine to speak of. No fry bread, no grape dumplings, no kanuchi or wild onions. And it’s so far from my grandchildren.

Maybe these academic fakers are right. It is a good day to be indigenous.

Steve Russell, Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, is a Texas trial court judge by assignment and an associate professor of criminal justice at Indiana University - Bloomington. He is a columnist for Indian Country Today.

Thursday, Nov 19 at 2:35 AM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

We all have been deceived and out witted. Now living in what is considered a real civilization we all play out parts. Some have it good some bad and I think we all should share. I know there will be disagreements and more and more discussions of what is right and what is wrong what is fair and what is not acceptable. In this clear and present danger we should ban together but the ole age fight still exists among us, why? Because we believe in a social system that trys to make us 2nd rate.

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Thursday, Nov 19 at 2:28 AM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

So there is no misconception. I look white but I also look Indian too. I have features on both sides of my parents. yes i know the poverty that exits on the reservations. Maybe more casino's maybe more federal money alotted. just think of the stimulus money given to wall street. Did you get any of it, I surely didn't. You think its not all about the money but it certainly helps. Lets be honest why do some get it and some are left out. hardly fair. As for you being rude don't worry about it. ok

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Monday, Nov 16 at 8:47 PM sasha wrote ...

TrackingWolfie, if that sounded rude, I assure you I didn't mean it in that way at all, asking things like that its hard to do over the internet without it being missunderstood. =)

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Monday, Nov 16 at 8:40 PM sasha wrote ...

why is it that you feel you should get some of the reservation money? I'm assuming you look quite white and would have more oppertunity than the fullblood ones would. I'm just wondering if you've ever been on or near a reservation and seen how hard life is for them.

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Monday, Nov 16 at 7:44 PM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

I am 1/4 Cherokee and I am not afraid to say show me the money. Of course we want our fair share. Sure its about our culture and the Cherokee way but like I said show me the money. I am tired of all the whinning and BS about prove it to me by roll call list. We all know the lists were tainted. Everyone is afraid of DNA testing,why? I'll tell you DNA doesn't lie everything after that is elementary. cry cry Cry thats all I hear got justice, no just more BS then carter has pills. lol idiots!

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Monday, Nov 16 at 1:39 AM sasha wrote ...

I'm happy that my multi-ethnic children (euro, east asian, and central american) don't have to prove themselves in that manner. I just hope someday this sad situation will stop and people will stop hating each other based on race, past ethnic wrong-doings, make $$ off their skin color, stop trying to play victim

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Monday, Nov 16 at 1:25 AM sasha wrote ...

The only indigenous american blood in me is my mother being from el slavador, but I lived extremly close to u.s. native reservations twice while growing up and seen the pain the blood quantum mindset caused so many obviously mixed children. I love their true culture, language, and history, but to me it's sick and nazi like to have to carry to prove your ancestry. In that respect I'm happy I'm not "native" and didn't have to deal this type of stuff.

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Tuesday, Nov 10 at 7:19 PM Native wrote ...

And this book is out or what?

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Saturday, Nov 7 at 2:31 PM AyaTeeStee wrote ...

hrm,, money is a fascinating culture.. on or off rez/boundary. 'I/Grandmother, [whatever] is % 'Cherokee'. really... When was the last time you went to water?.

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Sunday, Nov 1 at 11:37 AM KnightofSwords wrote ...

I am 3/16 Cherokee by CDIB my ancestors were on the trail of tears. As I said earlier I signed that sheet and I had more Cherokee blood than 150 people on that sheet and my Sioux band wants me to renounce my Cherokee blood in order to join them. That's not right. I have tan skin, I am 3/4 indian and I have to renounce my Cherokee and other tribe to join them. It's about money and not about justice. Blood quantum is an evil form of economic oppression on natives. Does anyone see that?

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Sunday, Nov 1 at 11:30 AM KnightofSwords wrote ...

The US won't have to pay out as much money for IHS, BIA, and other federal programs if there are no indians left to give the money to then they will just try to dissolve the tribe and say they are extinct. Tribal Governments can disenfranchise members also with blood quantum by not allowing some to share in mineral wealth, casino royalties, business royalties, etc. My sioux band makes one renounce my other tribes including Cherokee in order to become a member of their tribe.

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Sunday, Nov 1 at 11:25 AM KnightofSwords wrote ...

It would be nice if I had a Cherokee wife and kids or a wife from one of my other tribes but, if it does not happen a white wife would be okay I am part white. Blood quantum is a way for the US government and tribal governments to breed people out of existence so that only a select few will get benefits and then if the tribe gets real low membership those few left might reverse this policy so that only that select few and their descendants get the benefits.

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Sunday, Nov 1 at 11:07 AM KnightofSwords wrote ...

I think the current policy that the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma has is a good one of not having blood quantum. I am 3/4 indian, look indian, have 3 tribes, as well as 1/4 English and French. I am 3/16 Cherokee according to my CDIB. I need to go get my blue membership card. I went to W.W. Hastings hospital in Tahlequah one year to see the optometrist and they had a sheet people wrote on to show their blood quantum. I had more Cherokee blood than over 150 people who had signed that sheet

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Sunday, Oct 25 at 8:59 AM PM DR wrote ...

I could tell you stories as I grew up. being called half breed and not even living on the reservation. I can show you plenty of discrimination.

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Wednesday, Oct 14 at 12:21 PM DR wrote ...

Have these Cherokee academics encountered prejudice and racism inflicted upon them? Does the "pale" indian experience discrimination? That's another factor that makes us "Indian": discrimination. I have to wonder if our "pale" brothers and sisters know, firsthand, the discrimination, indignation, & oppression pressed upon our people with the more indigenous features, by the dominant society?!

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Tuesday, Oct 6 at 12:58 AM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

Change bew to new

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Tuesday, Oct 6 at 12:57 AM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

True jake, first of all I can trace my roots back to texas and Oklahoma. My great grand mother before she died told my father and others to go back to the reservation but they wouldn't go. In the shuffle a lot of documentation was lost but our spirit in this generation will not give up. Of course President Obama will turn a deaf ear because he is to busy trying to become the leader of the United Nations and creating the bew world order. Oh well I am talking and who cares or wants to listen?

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Thursday, Oct 1 at 12:32 AM Jake wrote ...

Ha! the proving of the tribe becomes the harder part-especially if someone has just found out via DNA that he/she has native blood. In this regard, I think looking back at the geography of where one's family has been a long time is a start. Ultimately, it may be a question of going back to the paper trail as far back as possible until one finds the "first" Indian in the chain. This is harder if one has to work with records from another country (Mexico, the Caribbean, South America).

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Wednesday, Sep 30 at 12:41 AM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

DNA first as of this time after the proof of being native American then prove what tribe. Wink!

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Monday, Sep 28 at 9:37 AM Jake wrote ...

Well, to a certain degree, someone has to have some native blood in order to claim rightly to be native. But I don't and I cannot really take blood quantum as the standard. Why? Because it gives someone else who has no right the authority to say who is and who is not. there are few left as it is, so if someone has native and it does show up-whether it be DNA or via a blood test-then that person should be counted. After that, it really is a matter of cultural identity and affiliation.

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Saturday, Sep 26 at 10:53 AM trackingWolfie wrote ...

LOL Simple truth, what is truth? The arrogance of depression and oppression brought on by Euro conquest. Now the brotherhood is lost in their own identities. They play the white man's game, manifest destiny. Indian now takes from indian learned trait from white man. Those that have take from those who have not. Why, all brought on by a systematic white man law. We can't come together because there is still not enough pain. Much of which is imposed upon us who do not live on the reservations.

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Thursday, Sep 24 at 3:24 PM SimpleTruth wrote ...

LOL! Oh so now all the "traditionals" are having to counil their differences around the fire of the internet on Indian Country Today?...lol. People need to adjust to being a human being first, and then become good at it.

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Friday, Sep 18 at 5:26 PM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

Chooge I live Indian too. This is a white man;s world but I can throw a knife faster then anyone around. Also, I can tomahawk through a tree and split it like wet pine. I am indian Cherokee by right and am proud of it. I can run longer and faster then most men my age. Chooge, I am cherokee.

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Sunday, Sep 13 at 7:05 AM Kirsten Olafsdottir wrote ...

We all talk about the racism and stupid sterotypes, now let's talk about the attraction and fascination. As white person not claiming anything else, I was struck even in childhood by the frequent claim of Indian blood, as if that meant something. Cool? Very, but why? All racial and ethnic groups are wonderful, after all. Yet, we are fascinated, and not just Americans: http://www.utne.com/Spirituality/Germans-weekends-Native-Americans-Indian-Culture.asp

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Wednesday, Sep 9 at 6:24 PM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

change fighying to fighting

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Wednesday, Sep 9 at 6:20 PM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

I believe in dreams and miracles. I served this country for over 30 years in the military. I served with honor. I am cherokee too but the nation doesn't recognize me. But I dream of the day when my people will tear down the barrior wall and welcome me home. It will be that on this day a miracle has happened. All the fighying and bickering and evil will not hold down the people as a whole. A day and time of rejoicing and happiness. Why do we wait why not now in this generation? Peace unto you.

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Wednesday, Sep 9 at 4:27 PM ncantrell wrote ...

while i enjoy russel's articles and agree that fraud is a serious problem, some people do need to get it through their heads that mixed bloods are not always the problem. after all,it was some full blood who made us at some point anyway. why should i be penalized because most my family doesn't care about the culture? or because a relative might have even loved the wrong person? some of us thinbloods defend our nations; i myself am going to be a tribal lawyer.

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Wednesday, Sep 9 at 6:41 AM Chooge wrote ...

You people trying to claim Indian,especially Cherokee need to read the letter to the editor of the Tahlequah Daily Press - Sept. 4 by Murv Jacob. I'm not a lone voice for blood quantum. We need it to weed out the thinbloods and fakers that have no understanding what it is to live Indian. This notion of all of a sudden feeling a 'connection' to being Indian is BS. You have to live it, talk it, breath it; not jump back and forth between whites and Indians. That's a part-time Indian, worthless.

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Wednesday, Sep 2 at 7:52 AM Adam wrote ...

I consider myself both Indian and White, even though it tilts more towards the white side (I am 5/8ths White), but I don't deny any of my ancestry either. Why would I? My blue eyes, light brown hair and red skin make what I am. Me. (Since everyone's arguing about tribes, I am Cherokee, Creek, Blackfoot (actually documented Blackfoot, not southeastern part Black), and Sioux. Mostly Cherokee and Creek. Most of my white heritage is Scandanavian, but I've been called a mutt. I like that titl

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Friday, Aug 28 at 2:58 AM Mike (giizisobines) wrote ...

On the Fri Aug 28 02:52 submision, please delete the second "love" word - my error. Miigwetch

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Friday, Aug 28 at 2:53 AM Mike (giizizobines) wrote ...

I am an Ojibwe Indian, a member of the great Ojibwe nation. Having travelled extensively throughout the US and the world, I have come to meet may fine people, some Native to our land, and some innigrants or descendants of immigrants. There are thousands of people who love Native love ways, and who "want to be Indian. Perhaps those who are in this situation could form a new tribe, adopt a constitution, and lend their efforts to promote native causes. This would be appreciated by all Natives.

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Tuesday, Aug 18 at 10:02 AM Judge Naidu wrote ...

What's with "Indian"? Native Americans are not from India, are they? Why perpetrate the monumental peccadillo of Pedro Scotto (real name of Christopher Columbus according to Spanish historian Alfonso Ensenat de Villalongo).

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Monday, Aug 17 at 1:28 AM Just Asking wrote ...

How about Navajo and Apache Indians that were sold to Mexicans long time ago? Even Geronimo`s sister was sold. Do some Mexicans have Apache and Navajo blood? I think so. How about the Mexicans that Apaches and Navajos adopted and who later married into the tribes? We are not all pure 100 percent I believe because who can trace ther granparents to 1,000 years ago?

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Saturday, Aug 1 at 9:49 PM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

Ayateestee, it goes something like this. A medicine man will comb and scratch your shoulders to your elbows down to your wrists. he would then blow red powder on the wounds which having healing power. All night the men would would stay in the hearth until morning and dip themselves in the river 7 times while the spiritual leader will pray over them. Now I believe I know Cherokee culture as well as most of you and I don't have a card its in my heart. Smile!

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Thursday, Jul 30 at 2:13 PM AyaTeeStee wrote ...

wow, comments as good as the story heheh. Blood Quantum or not, I liked what Chooge said early, about our traditions.. 'Cherokee', card or not, 'when was the last time you went to water, or even know why or 'how'?, purge, why..or how.. etc,etc.,, I could agree, it is in the 'heart',, but that should not be used as an 'excuse'. My Grandfather, IS not 'Native American'..He is, 'Cherokee', he never 'naturalized', lol...

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Monday, Jul 27 at 4:06 PM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

Don't worry AL your Cherokee wether they like it or not.

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Monday, Jul 27 at 3:03 PM Al wrote ...

My Dad's side of the family was part Cherokee. My mother's side was from a "Cowboy" clan. My mother's family pretty much ran my father off by the time I was three. I was always treated "differently" and grew up to be a loner, but I always felt like I at least ought to be Indian and developed Indian freinds. They never accepted me as being Indian either. I dont know what I am.

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Thursday, Jul 23 at 11:30 PM TRackingWolfie wrote ...

Change trognize to recognize

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Thursday, Jul 23 at 11:29 PM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

I will not quote law and I do like to relish that I can hold my own with the best of them. Simply , it is of the utmost urgency that we come to together and petition Congress to trcognize us as Cherokee with all rights and priviledges appertaing to. It is only right that those of us with Cherokee blood begin to enjoy our heritage without other blood brothers condeming us and trying to circumvent truth with words of ethnic cleansing. We don't do that in this country anymore. Lets Dance!

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Monday, Jul 20 at 9:35 AM Clovis wrote ...

"Years of research." That's a joke, right?

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Monday, Jul 20 at 8:45 AM Mike George wrote ...

So much hype about blood quantum. I am of mixed blood and grew up in suburban East Coast, I can’t see this giving me any right to tribal membership or benefits. Within the white community, if say I’m part Indian it is accepted without issue. Attempts to contact any of the tribes or organizations have been taken negatively. I would like to be welcomed as a distant cousin and not looked down upon as a “mixed blood Indian wannabe” and given a chance to learn about my heritage and celebrate it.

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Sunday, Jul 19 at 9:34 PM Two Feathers wrote ...

Thank-you Prof. Pierotti for your years of research. If you say you are ANI, and your lips speak the words of your heart, you have spoken the truth. You are as you are.

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Sunday, Jul 19 at 9:22 PM Two Feathers wrote ...

It has always been good to be indigenous. In response to the Bear Clan question. Why the Cherokee lost. We lost a war that lasted nearly 300 years. We fought Enlgand, France, Spain, The Colonies, as well as all of our traditional Native foes, and in the final day's, we had a civil war. There were also the outbreaks of Small Pox. The first time the outbreak was in the late 16th Century, only one to three % survived.

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Sunday, Jul 19 at 8:26 PM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

No I am not drunk, I have a black key board and sometimes I misspell words becaause of the lighting. As for my logic and truth of the law, well I believe it would be hard to rebut unless you are drunk and in a stupor. In all my blogs I taught of friendship, love, respect union and of course those that verbally fought against me were drunk and dizzy. Its very simple people and the truth will come out. DNA everyone that claims to be Cherokee and lets really see whos who?

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Sunday, Jul 19 at 6:02 PM Clovis wrote ...

Are you drunk, TrackingWolfie?

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Tuesday, Jul 14 at 6:14 PM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

Change yt to It change rtis this

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Tuesday, Jul 14 at 6:13 PM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

Iy is pure ignorance and hatred that has kept us apart. Now is the time to sieze the day. " journeys ending at loves beginning" Come celebrate on a broader spectrum than ever before. We're not leaving the old ways behind we're bringing them back. Lets your hearts laugh and be over joyed for the day of jubilee is coming. Rhis is not new age nonsense, I am serious. Consider the condition of all all of us and how much better off we will be when we are united together. Forgive aand Love.

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Tuesday, Jul 14 at 6:06 PM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

Change yte to the change studies to studied

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Tuesday, Jul 14 at 6:05 PM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

Chooge you have spoken wisdom and missed yhe point. Yes, let the government recognize all of us. It is not ethnic cleansing or mass genecide but a welcoming home of many. Power in numbers. We come from all walks of life and can influence the government to come our way once and for all. It must be a united front. And don't think I haven't studies the Cherokee way because I have since I was a child. No I haven't lived on the reservation but what I and many others could bring to our people. Think!

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Monday, Jun 29 at 5:05 AM WH wrote ...

Chooge - I hope my brother or sister you learn that being indian has nothing to do with being full blood. Even a full-blood can be lost from the way of the people. Blood quantum will just result in eventual ethnic genocide upon our people and the government has tricked us to believe in it.

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Friday, Jun 12 at 2:00 AM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

I'll change to our

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Friday, Jun 12 at 1:59 AM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

They say you could put trillions of angels on the head of apin. I'll entire universe as we know could be the size of a man's finger nail and yet chooge your trying to keep the finger nail for yourself. Whats the real problem here? Is it ignorance lack of education or just pure hatred? Come clean and let us know Chooge. I accept you as a blood brother chooge even though you do not accept me. You have lost your way Chooge and maybe with God's help you can find your way out of the great darkness.

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Friday, Jun 12 at 1:53 AM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

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Friday, Jun 12 at 1:52 AM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

Again I have to correct you chooge. Everyone came out of Africa so your not full blood like you say. You seem to want an ethnic cleansing but we don't tolerate it aanymore in this country. We so called thin bloods are here to stay and when the Federal government honors us we too will get a piece of the pie that you are so desperately trying to hide. Don't worry greedy Chooge your get yours too. I know you don't fully understand my wisdom but with time I think you will come around.

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Thursday, Jun 11 at 9:26 PM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

Change to bought push

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Thursday, Jun 11 at 9:24 PM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

A long time ago my people roamed the forest and mountains of this great land. At peace they with open arms opened their hearts and minds to others in love. dignity and with great integrity. Evil came in the world and men like Russell and chooge changed the inherent values of other men and women. Greed was the order of the day. Other's of alighter complexion bout them out and made them puch their propaganda against their brother's and sisters. This evil crime is still perpetuated by their clan.

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Thursday, Jun 11 at 9:16 PM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

others and in change

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Thursday, Jun 11 at 9:15 PM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

If I have seen further then most men, it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants. Wisdom comes with painful dedication to your studies and dedication to much research. Chooge discipline yourself in the narrow path to truth and do not open your mouth against brother's and sister's of other tribes. Mercy and compassion understanding of the dignity and self worth of oters is the order of the day. Unfortunately you scored low is these areas. Where is your integrity Chooge.?

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Thursday, Jun 11 at 9:09 PM TrackingWolfie wrote ...

Sorry Chooge you haven't done your homework. You say full blooded Cherokee, well then if every human decended out of Africa from the seven daughters of Eve that would make you part Freedman. LOL You can't refute DNA testing and I know for a fact you will come up with Afro American blood in you. Hate to burst your Cherokee bubble but fact is fact. You can cry all you want and put on as much war paint as you desire but the truth of the matter is you are a mix blood too Too funny!

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Monday, Jun 8 at 5:02 AM Ira wrote ...

A great line: "I wonder whose indigenous perspective he has been using, since the Comanche Nation repossessed theirs."

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Saturday, Jun 6 at 11:20 AM sploww wrote ...

If she (Andrea Smith)is not Cherokee, then what is she? She is clearly somrthing other than just white. Look at her face and her features. What is she mexican?

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Saturday, Jun 6 at 11:19 AM splow wrote ...

If she (Andrea Smith)is not Cherokee, then what is she? She is clearly somrthing other than just white. Look at her face and her features. What is she mexican?

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Monday, Jun 1 at 7:56 PM u-stahli wrote ...

you are indian if your mama told you that you are indian............ wado, u-stahli

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Wednesday, May 27 at 11:45 AM Chooge wrote ...

I'm fullblood Cherokee, I've seen kin marrying white folks for a long time. I've got me a Cherokee woman keeping it real. Apparently you are mixed white. We see too many of these young thinbloods grabbing what should be helping my elders. They can't speak Tsa-la-gi and you ask thinbloods to go to ceremonies they give a bewildered look saying, 'uh-yeah' like 'oh sh*t.' FAKERS. Too many of you Indians marrying europeans and it's our right to say who is Indian, BLOOD QUANTUM.

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Tuesday, May 26 at 9:35 PM Dionys wrote ...

"Speaking out against blood quantum saying it's european is a tired, old argument. We've accepted nearly everything else european including some of you Indians marrying them." Saying "you Indians" makes it apparent you are not Indian. Blood quantum has been despised y Natives since it was introduced for a reason -- it lets a government other than our own decide who is and who is not Indian.

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Tuesday, May 26 at 9:01 AM Chooge wrote ...

Most of you make it quite clear, you are not Indian. Most thinbloods are not Indian just related to one. And yes, I remember when 1/2 bloods were peculiar. We full bloods looked on them as 'huh.' Accept it, if you don't know the languages, songs, hymns, ceremonies and our traditions, you're not Indian - just accept it, thinblood.

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Tuesday, May 26 at 8:52 AM Chooge wrote ...

Time has passed. All thinbloods are now clinging to something they know nothing about. Yeah, the the few that chose to be Indian are the thinbloods that can claim Indian benefits. Thinbloods don't know Native languages, traditions, the stories of our elders and our ceremonies. They're the fakes. Bring in BLOOD QUANTUM to weed out the fakes, thinbloods,and wannabees. I'm all for that. AGAIN, we've taken most everthing european including some of you Indians marrying them.

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Wednesday, May 20 at 7:52 PM anonymous wrote ...

What "federal tribe" were Crazy Horse, Sitting Bull, Chief Joseph, Tecumseh, and countless other Native men and women "members" of? What federal CDIB card did they carry? What people in the world other than Indian people have to have a Certificate of Degree of Indian blood to prove who they are? What about those whites who were taken captive and adopted as full members of the nation and the family? Were they rejected because they had "white" blood, or were they accepted as one of the people?

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Wednesday, May 20 at 6:13 PM lpol wrote ...

Personally I think you all need to get over yourselves you know back in the day we did not have all this I am more Indian than you nonsense and when you use terminology like that I can see the white in you coming out!

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Tuesday, May 19 at 4:34 PM Eddie wrote ...

I think the Cherokee Nations are becoming like the Nazis. Maybe they can gas all the people who can't prove their heritage. That would solve the whole problem. But it might take out some of their relations also.

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Monday, May 18 at 4:31 PM anthony trombetti wrote ...

let the Creator decide for you...and i think He already has...there is no one like you...you are as unique as your fingerprint. celebrate. Many are called Indians, few have chosen to be Indian...and to be Indian means no thing. Chue.

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Monday, Apr 27 at 7:40 AM Chooge wrote ...

It's been my experience that people who speak against 'blood quantum' are thinblood. Indians have excepted most everything european, their governments, their missionaries, their funds, etc. Speaking out against blood quantum saying it's european is a tired, old argument. We've accepted nearly everything else european including some of you Indians marrying them. There are over 400 fake Cherokee tribes, all of those members with great-grandmoters who were a Cherokee Princess. EUROPEANS?

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Sunday, Apr 26 at 7:01 PM Rainbow tribe, Mother Bear wrote ...

And if you wanted to start a new tribe... or gather the lost children of the splintered tribes? What if you just wanted to remake the hoop of the nation? Is there a proper federal form to be filled out? It seems to me REAL Indians would not be so concerned with pieces of paper. But what do I know? I am just a Haole.

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Tuesday, Apr 7 at 11:42 AM Kanaratanoron Bear clan akwesasne n. y. wrote ...

All I want to know is if there were so many cherokee`s in this world. How in the hell did we lose this country ???

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Monday, Mar 30 at 11:22 AM Sheila wrote ...

It is wonderful that so many people allow the question of "blood quantum", (a purly Euro-term) to prove that you are who you say your are. Truly wonderful, since for years the "euros", dictated to you were, by taking away your land, and your language, and your history. Now, you want to stand proud, and throw your chest out, and tell everyone how the "Euros", convinced a whole people to accept their terms as to what you are. I can't remember the last time I met a "full-blood" "Euro".

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Friday, Mar 27 at 10:23 AM GWY48 wrote ...

Great discussion!

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Thursday, Mar 19 at 12:51 PM Wambli Wanji wrote ...

An uncle told me to be Indian was a way of life. In the old days they knew all of their relatives. Many tribes married amongst each other. There were no Europeans and all Indians looked alike. To be "The Name of Your Tribe" was to live as your ancestor's did, we have many. Your life exemplified who you were, not what you said or what a card read. Anyone who has to tell you over and over again what they are, is not what they say they are. So, just be, because either you are or you are not.

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Tuesday, Mar 17 at 7:21 AM Chooge wrote ...

Mr. Russell pretends to be the voice of 'many Indians' well not with this pure blood. Being 4/4 Cherokee, praise blood quantum!! It's a way of knowing what you are and how much. We 'many Indians', and I can safely write this, are troubled with thin bloods pretending to be Indian when they live their entire lives as white. It wasn't long ago when being Indian was to be degraded, now it's become a benefit grab, i.e. tribal car tags, housing, health care, education and other benefits as INDIAN.

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Wednesday, Mar 11 at 1:49 AM SMT wrote ...

I think you do hold a grudge. You sound petty and ignorant.

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Monday, Mar 2 at 2:38 PM RC wrote ...

Great article!! I agree too many "academic scholars' who claim Native ancestry are appropriating the culure of our ancestors. I am a dual member of both the Cherokee Nation and the United Keetoowah Band of Cherokees and feel it is an honor to say I am a member of both federally recognized tribes because way back when being Indian wasn't cool my ancestors stood up and said they were Indian!It is OK to say your NDN but to benefit when you are not from a federal tribe then that is wrong.

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Tuesday, Feb 17 at 7:46 PM ga da clyde wrote ...

O siyo. I am of mixed cherokee and celtic blood like almost all long time families of southern appalachia. I would like to point out that old time appalachian culture is about half indian culture whether or not you happen to be indian by blood. The foods we eat, the herbs we use, the stories we tell, some of our dances, hunting practices, and our beliefs about nature are indian as much as they are european. old time appalachian culture is Cherokee culture to some large degree. Wado equa

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Monday, Feb 2 at 1:59 PM JH wrote ...

You are what you are. I would be willing to accept a claim of being a decendant, if the subject matter expert also lived in the culture. I also hear "self proclaimed" There are a lot of these. I have no problem with this either as long as it's able to be proved, and again they must speak from experience in the culture, and not from some research they did.

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Sunday, Jan 18 at 1:13 AM two feathers wrote ...

Three of the four recognized cherokee tribes do not allow other cherokees from turtle island to be voting citizens. The so-called Southern Cherokees will except you and honor the Treaty of 1866.

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Thursday, Dec 11 at 9:03 AM Yonv Gigage wrote ...

The article is good. The comments are racists. I have Indians on nearly every branch of my family tree, yet card carrying tribal Indians seek to deny me, and others like me, the right to claim my own ancestry and heritage. I do not want a card, money from casinos, free health care, free college education, etc based on my ancestry. I want to learn about my ancestors and their ways. The card carry tribal Indians WILL NOT prevent me from being who I am.

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Thursday, Dec 4 at 12:33 PM Onigeahyoh wrote ...

It is time these Faux Indigenous descendants within academia be held accountable, so I propose this: "Prove your Indigenous ancestry within 5 years, within this time if you can't prove you are Indigenous without the use of a ridiculous story, then say so with no penalty. If you cannot, will not, or ignore this, prepare to be outed and ousted like the fraud you are." In 2013, Nebraska Press will be awarding a book deal on this easily researchable subject to a first-time Indigenous author.

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Thursday, Dec 4 at 12:13 PM Onigeahyoh wrote ...

I have met many academics that claim Indigenous ancestry and use stories of deathbed confessionals or "lost tribes" to confirm their identity. This identity is discovered in graduate school, and everytime they are the only member of their family that have "the blood."

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Wednesday, Oct 29 at 7:13 PM Rumor wrote ...

Credible rumor is, Dr. Smith does not even have Cherokee ancestry. She definitely is not a member of a tribe.

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Saturday, Oct 18 at 2:33 PM Wambli wrote ...

I suspect, that most Cherokee in the Academia are not true Cherokee's but the gatekeeper of the Empire, thus the oppressor. One might claim bood as their right to claim to be Cherokee, but blood only doesn't make you Cherokee. What makes you Cherokee is not conforming and be used as an "object" by Empire as a voice of repression upon all First Nations. U.S. white nationalist education policy is this, "Don't teach them how to critically think, Cherokee". Cherokee means this "Freedom!"

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Tuesday, Oct 7 at 12:53 PM gf wrote ...

What is this claim that you keep stating in "I was thinking about this when I wrote a couple of columns about the denial of tenure at the University of Michigan to Andrea Smith, who has in the past claimed to be Cherokee. " Be clear and say it outright! Are you claiming that she is not Cherokee as she claims to be? What is your evidence that this is a claim of the past?

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