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Nov 23, 2009
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Nov 23, 2009
PLUMMER, Idaho – The deaths of three people in Arizona in early October at a “Spirit Warrior” program has led to the Coeur d’Alene Tribal Council taking a stand in opposition to such programs. These three were part of a group of about 65 people who paid up to $9,000 each to take part in a ceremony in a crudely constructed sweat lodge conducted by self-help expert James Arthur Ray.
The resolution, passed in late October by the tribal council, “condemns the purveyors of these new age programs that exploit Native American religious traditions without any knowledge, experience or understanding of the meaning or significance of these traditions and market Native American ceremonies and traditions for their own personal gain.”
The resolution expresses condolences to the families of the three people who died in this “tragic incident” and “hopes that this senseless tragedy will promote a better understanding of Native American history and foster respect and deference to Native American ceremonies and spiritual traditions.”
Tribal Council Vice Chairman Ernie Stensgar said he was “appalled to read about the deaths that happened. I was taught as a child by my grand uncle that the sweat lodge is very sacred. There is tradition and protocol that goes along with the sweat. Every part, from building the fire to building the sweat house to how you sit and pray there, is sacred.
“As I read that story I thought about my grand uncle who was a medicine man and some of the other people that taught us the way of the sweat. Those people would turn over in their graves if they heard that the sweat lodge ceremony was being exploited and being commercialized. That’s what offended me and a lot of people here on the reservation – that people would try to make money off that ceremony that has been so helpful to so many people.”
That is precisely the reason the tribal council passed the resolution condemning exploitation of traditional sacred ceremonies.
“I think across the country Native Americans are very appalled by what they read,” Stensgar said. “Everything we read, we felt like the Coeur d’Alene Tribe should speak out and say something about it to the public. I thought the council should speak out through a resolution which we would send to the Northwest Affiliated Tribes and maybe they would forward it on to the National Congress. … condemning these types of activities by non-Natives or even Natives who would commercialize and try to exploit sacred ceremonies of tribes.”
There are quite a few sweat lodges on the Coeur d’Alene Reservation as there are on reservations throughout the country. People are taught from the time they are children about the significance of the sweat. It is so much a part of the culture that at least some federal prisons allow sweat lodges for Native American inmates. The Veterans Administration complex in Spokane has a sweat lodge for healing.
Glen Lambert has a sweat lodge in his backyard. Glen’s dad was enrolled on the Colville Reservation and his wife is Coeur d’Alene. He is a Vietnam veteran and finds peace and sanity from those memories comes from using the sweat. “I can come here. I can relax. I can cleanse myself and feel good. You feel better every time you come out of there for some reason. I guess it’s being close to the Creator.”
Lambert allows anyone who wants to use the sweat. “If they ask and come in a good way and pray and feel better, anyone can come.” And he laughs as he says there is no charge, although if someone wants to bring a little bag of tobacco or something to use during ceremonies, that’s fine.
Stensgar recalls as a youngster how his grand uncle and others would never speak English in the sweat. “We’ve lost our language, but a lot of people remember the songs.
“Today our youngsters have reached out into that ceremony. It’s probably one of the traditions they really look forward to that helps them during hard times,” he commented, particularly in regard to drugs and alcohol. “It’s not only very sacred, it’s very private in their prayers. The songs they probably sing in there have been handed down from generations. Those songs are sacred.”
Stensgar would encourage people throughout Indian country to speak out against anyone exploiting traditional ceremonies and to really make it known wherever it might be occurring.
Monday, Dec 21 at 5:20 PM Jim Tasks wrote ...
This website is collecting information from others who have experience with James Ray or JRI. Please visit: www.sweatlodgeinvestigation.com
34103992Saturday, Dec 12 at 7:56 PM wikiyan-hoye-wadidakpi wrote ...
remember our elders teaching.be humble,pray,it is the creator who gives,what we do with the gift is is up to us.individaully...white red yellow black we are the same.
33566184Monday, Dec 7 at 5:20 PM Kanaratanoron(bear clanof akwesasne Five nation confederacy wrote ...
you see when you misuse something that is not your`s.the creator has punished people for this act and that is what it is.greed these people have to live with this the rest of their live`s even then you have too anwser to the creator then.when you leave this life how you walk on this earth motherearth you will pay the price when you get there the spirit world he will jugde you. ONEN bye
33257077Tuesday, Dec 1 at 11:23 PM Lazy Wolf wrote ...
If Sweat Lodge Ceremonies are scared or places of prayer for Native people,then why do they let white people in to participate, once a whiteman participates in sweat lodge ceremony, he takes it with him, where no native can see what he is doing and he practices these ceremonial ways, we should be careful about who we let participate in ceremonies designed for Native exclusively. The whiteman will take everything from us if we don't start better regulation of these ceremonies. They have a church.
32942244Tuesday, Dec 1 at 1:30 PM curtis begay bitney wrote ...
I understand this kind of exploitation, we the the first nations of greater salt lake put a stop to a charlatin such as james a ray. why is it there all named james such james"flaming eagle"mooney! we brothers and sisters put a stop to this in 2001 put even then he still got with a slap on wrist just becuase he 1/16th cherokee.i will be first to say i am not scared to stop these poeple from our tradition as amoney pit!
32909166Friday, Nov 27 at 7:09 PM native wrote ...
Another troll assuming an Indian personality, post regularly, and start inserting their bias and promoting the agendas they've been paid to do. "TAX NUAGE CULT$" - What company is sending you to post spam on neo-Nazi Aryanism and disrupting Indian Country Today's comment section?
32753669Friday, Nov 27 at 2:37 AM TAX NUAGE CULT$ wrote ...
If you do any research at all on cults, you will find that they target, successful, educated white idealistic people with access to wealth. Cults have no use for poor people without skills that can earn the cult money. James Ray’s deathlodge cult existed for two purposes only – to get more members, and to amass more wealth for those at the top of the cult pyramid. The cult members were used and exploited by James Ray, but the bait he used was their early indoctrination into white supremacists n
32729351Friday, Nov 27 at 2:36 AM TAX NUAGE CULT$ part 7 wrote ...
racist society because they’ve earned them. James Ray gave them permission to purify themselves of compassion for the poor, the wage slaves, the homeless and especially the American Indian. He told them the American Indian was like a monkey whose only purpose was to guard the spiritual secrets until the superior Pleidian hybrid master race “awakened” to assume their true place of leadership in a “New World.”
32729341Friday, Nov 27 at 2:35 AM TAX NUAGE CULT$ wrote ...
the credentials to lead the same type of fake ceremonies that he was getting rich off of. There’s much more to this cult, but they members bonded around being educated, white middle class people who had already been told all their lives that they were more deserving of the education and opportunities that had been given to them ONLY because of their skin color. The racism here lies entirely in the minds of educated, privileged whites who have been told all their lives by society that they enjo
32729324Friday, Nov 27 at 2:35 AM TAX NUAGE CULT$ wrote ...
and they were born to create ceremonies that would bring back a glorious Matriarchal pagan past. They paid huge sums of money for herbal detoxification remedies and monatomic gold power that when used with the chants and songs they were taught was supposed to raise their level of vibration and make them super human. James Ray convinced them that if they did as they were instructed they would ascend to a higher dimension and become more than human and this would lead them to great wealth and
32729314Friday, Nov 27 at 2:34 AM TAX NUAGE CULT$ wrote ...
after more and more money is invested so the cult member is reluctant to leave the program until he or she sees a return on their money. The people attending the sweat lodge were a few steps away from being able to make large sums of money by becoming leaders in the cult and leaving their status of apprentice. This is why they stayed in – RAW GREED and AMBITIOIN. The had come to the point where their believed they were the “evolved” higher root race that was created by superior aliens from the
32729287Friday, Nov 27 at 2:33 AM TAX NUAGE CULT$ wrote ...
Blavatsky root race theory, but the blatant racism is changed to more subtle racism. The Aryans become the Peiadian hybrids. The White brotherhood becomes a brother hood of the Light. The 6th Aryan root race is called the indigo children or a race of reincarnated American Indians who were born to fulfill the fictitious Hopi or Mayan prophesies which are manipulated to serve the political agenda of the particular guru leading the cult. The indoctrination comes slowly over long periods of time a
32729262Friday, Nov 27 at 2:32 AM TAX NUAGE CULT$ wrote ...
those who are “awake” (rich, white and spiritually enlightened) and those who are “not awake” (people of color fighting for social justice, atheists, skeptics and the most despised of all – Jews). One is slowly indoctrinated by thought stopping activities, sleep and food deprivation and heavy peer pressure to believe that members of the cult are superhuman descendants from the Pleiades. They are told that they are now part of the brotherhood and sisterhood of the “Light,” They are taught the
32729252Friday, Nov 27 at 2:32 AM TAX NUAGE CULT$ wrote ...
the racist society where they enjoy a place at the very top. You haven’t heard about what “teachings” were being sold to the all white death cult in the name of freedom of religion. Sedona is a hotbed for spiritual Aryanism. There are more people practicing and spreading Nazi occult beliefs in Sedona, Taos, Santa Fe, Belgium, England, and Australia than there were Germany in the 1930s and 40s.When one enters a New Age cult, one is told that he or she is now “awake”. A line is drawn between th
32729237Friday, Nov 27 at 2:31 AM TAX NUAGE CULT$ wrote ...
whole other aspect to his deathlodge cult that is not being reported, either by the white owned and control mainstream media, or the white owned and controlled “leftist” “alternative media. James Ray took the Inipi and stripped it of its true meaning. He used its empty carcass as a marketing ploy in order to sell white supremacist neo-Nazi fantasies to rich white people who were more than happy to pay him thousands of dollars to reinforce and support their preconceived racist perspectives about
32729224Friday, Nov 27 at 2:31 AM TAX NEW AGE CULT$ wrote ...
it seem like the people who dies were blameless angels, but this couldn’t be further from the truth. In order to attend a spiritual warrior retreat, the deathlodge cult members must have invested at least $30,000.00 in previous ‘seminars’ where high pressure sales techniques and thought stopping activities were used to break down their critical thinking skills and convince them that only James Rays brand of spiritual hucksterism could save them from their awful lives before James Ray.There is a
32729214Friday, Nov 27 at 2:29 AM TAX NUAGE CULT$ wrote ...
Culture belongs to the people who create it. Not the parasites who sold their souls for prestige, wealth, power and a luxurious lifestyle that the majority of the planet can’t even hope for.It’s interesting how these people who are so concerned about fighting racism know absolutely nothing about the extreme poverty and soul-crushing daily racism that poor people of color have to deal with in order for them to enjoy their underserved lifestyles. How does it escape your notice that James Ray is a
32729199Friday, Nov 27 at 2:29 AM TAX NUAGE CULT$ wrote ...
What nerve to imply that somehow Native American people can be “racist”! Those of you who reap all the underserved benefits of our almost total cultural spiritual and physical annihilation have got no right to call anybody a racist. The sheer gall and limitless arrogance! The only RACISM going on here was in the economically/socially sere-gated community of Sedona. I’m sick of all these nons whining about how racist we are for asserting our basic human right to preserve the integrity of the on
32729179Friday, Nov 27 at 2:04 AM Mika wrote ...
Do we all not have white in our eyes? Do we not bleed the same color? I am Native and it is really sad when we do not walk our talk! Are part of our teachings say "WE ARE ALL CONNECTED" There are many spokes to the wheel(Tunkashila). Do you think the creator of all would be proud of he/she's children? It's time to let go of the hatred! What happened was in the hands of an irresponsible , greedy human being. I have said what I need to and lay down my Bow. Love to you all!
32728744Wednesday, Nov 25 at 4:53 PM scooter wrote ...
in my state, WI-if this were a driving incident; he would quickly be charged with reckless vehilcular homicide--and with leaving the scene of an accident. driving a ceremony recklessly is about the same thing.
32679102Wednesday, Nov 25 at 1:08 PM R.A. wrote ...
Sad to say, but it's only going to get worst. Especially with the information digital age and the thirst for indian spirituality has spread all over the world - how are we going to control that? Laws and regulations are going to need to be in place. All people, including natives, need to be educated and informed on the proper protocols in any religion or native spiritual practices for the sake of trying to keep it traditional.
32666636Tuesday, Nov 24 at 11:25 PM dacotah wrote ...
here's an alluring example, on the front cover of the "Indian" Country Today news", is this Ad. . . . . . . . . .. "Sweat Lodge Drums Sing 28 Stones on Sweat Lodge Drum. River-Recovered Cedar. Free Stick. www.TheDrumPeople.com " : ) a free stick to boot.
32639336Tuesday, Nov 24 at 10:49 PM ex-medic wrote ...
Some of these comments stink of racism. Or do two wrongs make a right?
32637884Tuesday, Nov 24 at 7:03 PM redlaker wrote ...
this was our relations letting white eyes know you won't take our ceremonies.and make a profit
32627856Tuesday, Nov 24 at 3:26 PM north eastern wrote ...
When some one told me about people dieing in a sweat the first words out of my mouth "white guy selling sweats"
32613686Tuesday, Nov 24 at 2:48 PM iServed wrote ...
@ Rez Indian, it's wrong to call out the Lakota as sell outs - there are sell outs in every tribe. @ Bluabbey, it's true, ignorance and greed did kill those people, it's true. So all of you ... let all you know that a sweat is not a commercial operation. Ever.
32610916Tuesday, Nov 24 at 1:27 PM rezzie wrote ...
Why do these non's want to get involved with our way? They already stole on the best parts of the US, not to mention our sacred grounds to build big homes, golf courses, businesses, churches, etc.
32605259Monday, Nov 23 at 9:15 PM bluabbey wrote ...
ignorance and greed for the almighty dollar killed those people
32571331Monday, Nov 23 at 8:18 PM Calif. native wrote ...
I, remember as a young boy, and being told of the traditions of the sweats and the importance of having it sacred. When I read of the incident, if felt for the people and their families, but I also felt betrayed, how could this person(s) take something that is so sacred so the Native American Community, and think that they could use it for their gain. Look what happens, maybe other nationalities should think twice before copying anything natives do.
32569036Monday, Nov 23 at 4:38 PM nobody's friend wrote ...
remember the 9th circuit appeal court decision about so-called san francisco peaks? the writer of that decision said indians do not have religion. now, what function does sweat have besides cleanliness,healthiness,and other? obviously 9th circuit appeal court is wrong!
32556894Monday, Nov 23 at 3:40 PM Rez Indian wrote ...
Unrestricted exposure of the Lakota sweats by a few has sold-out the rest of the tribes. As a result, Indians in general, are now a joke and we don’t want to be perceived that way. Also, the thinking that there is only one way "run" sweats is ridiculous. Many do theirs quietly. My full-blood grandfather too built his own sweats in his backyard. That's his business & his business only. You don't do it for 50 or 60 rich white people. James Arthur Ray copied a certain way to "run" a sweats.
32553226Monday, Nov 23 at 2:56 PM cm wrote ...
My husband was attending college classes in Ellensburg Wa. He was invited to go and sweat with some other native guys who were also attending. When my husband questioned the invitation, he was told he had to bring a gift and set it on the alter. He said he never heard of putting a gift on the alter in any sweat he had even been in. Needless to say, he never went to sweat. Look around at the pow-wows, vendors are selling sage and sweet grass, most are non-indian. Voice your concern .
32550399Monday, Nov 23 at 1:11 PM Crow Warrior wrote ...
At times it's our own People who exploit these traditional Ceremonies. It's bad enough that we have Non-Native artists making all this money painting and sculpting us,and then now making the Almighty dollar off our ceremonies and expoiting their own People who are searching for Spiritual life!
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