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May 3, 2010
PHOENIX – A controversial new state anti-immigration law has many American Indians alarmed that tribal sovereignty has been violated, with the looming possibility that individual liberties will be threatened.
The law, S.B. 1070, makes it a crime to be in Arizona illegally, and it requires police to check suspects for residency paperwork. It also bans people from soliciting work or hiring day laborers off the street.
The state’s legislature passed the bill in late-April, with Republican Gov. Jan Brewer signing it into law shortly thereafter.
Republican supporters have argued that the measure is necessary to protect the nation’s borders by reducing illegal immigrants and the burden they place on taxpayers. Some believe that drug cartels and crime will also be combated.
Those ideas have been widely controversial, with many progressive groups, Hispanics, and the Obama administration protesting the law. The main questions center on what factors police will use to decide if a person should be required to show paperwork.
Racial profiling is a top concern, and lawsuits to challenge the law’s legality are certain.
As the debate has progressed, Native American perspectives have also quickly become part of the mix. Many observers have noted that it was the indigenous people of North America who welcomed European immigrants to the continent hundreds of years ago.
The Inter Tribal Council of Arizona has been one of those leading the charge, sending a letter that urged the legislature and governor not to pass the law.
“We have a range of concerns, including tribal sovereign nations not being recognized as able to define and protect their own borders as they see fit, and the possibility that tribal citizens will be profiled by police,” said John Lewis, director of the organization.
Lewis and other ITCA staffers traveled to Washington after the law passed to educate national policy makers about their concerns. Various Native American groups are calling on tribes and Indians to oppose the measure, hopefully to get it repealed.
“This impacts all indigenous people, and the lawmakers need to know it,” Lewis said. “America’s boundaries are not tribal boundaries.”
Lewis noted that some tribes, including the Tohono O’odham Nation and the Pascua Yaqui Tribe, are on and near the U.S.-Mexico border.
“Our tribes have much interaction with Mexico, through culture and life, and I’m not sure people realize that there’s an economic impact involved as well.”
Lewis and others believe that American Indians are likely to be unfairly targeted, based on their appearance and travel patterns. The American Civil Liberties Union has expressed similar concerns, and has vowed to monitor that aspect of the law.
“Even if they are just stopped for five minutes, that is five minutes too many if the rights of people have been infringed,” Lewis said.
Ian Record, an education manager with the Native Nations Institute, said he is concerned that he could be targeted, since his truck has a “Latinos for Obama” sticker on it.
“It’s scary that something like that could be a factor in you getting pulled over. My wife is Latina. We shouldn’t be afraid of that.”‘
Record noted that citizens of the Tohono O’odham Nation and the Pascua Yaqui Tribe have been strongly rallying against the law.
“It complicates things for tribal citizens, especially of those nations. It has to be greatly concerning to everyone that law-abiding citizens of those nations are likely to be pulled over,” Record said.
“The tribe’s sovereignty and the tribal citizens’ rights are obviously being harmed.”
Robert Warrior, the Osage president of the Native American and Indigenous Studies Association, echoed those issues in a letter to the governor April 24.
“Your action as chief executive of the state of Arizona will, when the law takes effect, give license to abuse by police and citizens, making ever more murky the possibility of working towards a just future for all people in the Americas,” wrote Warrior, director of American Indian Studies at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
“S.B. 1070 will have tremendous negative impact on indigenous people on both sides of the border between the United States and Mexico, and it ought to go without saying that some of the people most impacted by this invidious law are descended from peoples who lived in the Sonoran Desert centuries before anyone even thought of the United States. Regardless of proximity or descent, though, the new law is morally wrong and panders to the worst currents in U.S. politics.”
Warrior said in an interview that the regulation seems to be “myopic by design,” since it seeks to take complex realities and make them seem simple.
“Given that many thousands of indigenous people are from communities that have straddled the U.S.-Mexico border since long before that border came to be, I see this law as a tragic reminder of how polluted political culture in the U.S. has become.”
Warrior said tribal citizens throughout North America should see the situation “as a call to think about where we are headed as indigenous peoples whose right to exist predates the borders that now so often keep us apart.”
“We need a growing consciousness of what our persistence and presence means in the hemisphere. For those of us who are U.S. citizens, a law like this provides an opportunity to oppose the worst currents of U.S. political life and to stand in solidarity with those whose human rights are violated in the name of security.”
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milton apache said on Wednesday, Aug 25 at 5:14 PM
As a native American i feel that there are civil issues that are in question. An this kind of prejudgement is very racial, I am an Apache i've been mistaken for a mexican,hawaiian, and asian, all these misrepresentations came your average white america
50603071Outraged said on Monday, Aug 2 at 1:48 PM
I'm Disappointed By Some Native Peoples comments... What stupidity and Ignorance... As someone who has Indian Blood running through my veins, I am ashamed and embarrassed by some of the Racist and Close minded Remarks I've read. It's shameful when an Indian person shares like minded thoughts and Biases like those Who first sought to colonize and destroy all traces of Indian culture. Your Pathetic! Who made you the Judge of others. What Gives you the right to call other Phonies "Fake Indians" Do you know their individual Histories, Blood Lines. Why must you generalize a Group of People, based on your narrow minded experiences. What gives us the right to judge who is Indian or not! Those of you who claim "Indian Divinity" and are prejudiced towards better be well informed before posting Stupid/Uneducated remarks about Geography and History. First study Anthropology, Research the Real History, and original Population of our Beautiful Continent and its Original Peoples and ethnicities and
49009119BrothersFrom AnotherMother said on Monday, Aug 2 at 10:52 AM
HMMMM, Is that somthing under my shoe??? Seems there are some anglos on here making posts and stirring people up under the pretense that they are Native because a TRUE Native embraces all other Indigenous people from around the world, whether they are Sami, Awá or Pitjantjatjara. If you're Native AMERICAN and you are for SB1070, remember, when it's an extremely hot day in the Arizona desert,you're with your spouse and kids and one of the corrupt officers we see so often these days pulls you over and asks you to prove that you're Native, just remember: YOU WANTED THIS!!
48996944Gary said on Wednesday, Jun 9 at 7:37 PM
They could easily teach the cops how to discern native from mexican and if you're native and cops ask for your papers show them your tribal card and that will be the end of it. Mexico is for mexicans and southern natives. U.S. is for northern natives.
45058859Jessi Dale said on Wednesday, Jun 9 at 5:06 PM
Dear Nicholas Folkes, "White Americans are too tolerant just like most white people and this attitude needs to change or else the US and the West will become third world with the constant negative demographic changes forced upon us by deceitful and divisive Govts. I have met many Amercians and Mexicans in my life and the most racist and intolerant were the Mexicans." This statement is one of the most racist ones I have ever seen. Labeling an entire group of people, "Mexicans" as racist and intolerant....is in fact, RACIST AND INTOLERANT!! You are talking about "white Americans" however, Americans are all colors! Our country was founded on immigrants, and ironically, the only true people native to the United States are the American Indians, but they are the ones who are going to be racially profiled and have to show paperwork proving their citizenship simply because they are people of color. We have linked the "American citizen" with being white, an ideology we should be ashamed of.
45049388Nicholas Folkes, Sydney, Aust. said on Monday, Jun 7 at 7:16 AM
SB-1070 is way overdue. The American people dserve a Federal Govt. that is interested in protecting its borders. If past and present Republican and Democrat Federal administrations took action Arizona would not have to legislate. White Americans are too tolerant just like most white people and this attitude needs to change or else the US and the West will become third world with the constant negative demographic changes forced upon us by deceitful and divisive Govts. I have met many Amercians and Mexicans in my life and the most racist and intolerant were the Mexicans. Mexcians continue to play the victims narrative but it is the American worker and tax payer who is the victim with undocumented workers stealing their work and sucking up taxes. Mexicans should improve their situation at home and stop creating problems in the US. Just imagine the Latino cries if illegal US nationals crossed their border and filled the jails and welfare queues. I salute the good people of Arizona.
44855909pauline girvin said on Thursday, Jun 3 at 4:49 PM
I am truly saddened by the racist response from natives against those they define as "illegal". Heck, it was legal in the early statehood of CA to have Indian child slaves and the Supreme Court held CA natives to be trespassers on the public domain or in other words illegal occupants of their aboriginal territory. Have native people railing against illegal aliens in these comments forgotten the racist laws they faced. Also, very few Mexicans are "Spanish" we are nearly all mestizo or mixed Indian and Spanish many of us have more Indian blood than enrolled members of Tribe in the U.S. I really would expect more empathy than that reflected in these comments.
44667082yellowhawk said on Thursday, Jun 3 at 2:40 PM
DRUGS FROM MEXICO you are correct. drugs are being allowed in "if you know what i mean"
44655532chief wind in da hair said on Monday, May 24 at 10:56 AM
does SB 1070 does apply only to illegal people south of the border, what about the illegal people who decide to stay here in Arizona who dont want to go back to their country like Canada, England, China, Germany, French people, there are alot of them living around the Phoenix, they dont speak american english
43870389Anonymous said on Sunday, May 23 at 7:50 PM
Wow boarding schools has done alot of harm just as missions/misiones did in Mexico. May I suggest to decolonize your mind. I just had a horrible thought: what if some of these respondents are tea partiers pretending to be Native Americans just as the colonizers in the boston tea party played "Indians"
43840169Observer said on Sunday, May 23 at 5:23 PM
10:42 AM Raechel Running wrote ... "apparantly a lost soul who is out of touch and trying to 'reconnect'". Stay in your lil' world and don't come out....
43834384Raechel Running said on Sunday, May 23 at 10:42 AM
Raechel Running It's a great article and a pretty intense set of responses that seem to reflect more of the "us vs them"which I think has to do with our collective understanding of 'history' as we've been taught in school. I am not either Mexican or Indigenous by blood but am often times assumed to be either or. Interestingly I am more influenced by these culturas and don't hardly know my Chinese or African roots. Maybe I read different books, and as an artist see the world more inclusive; I am struck by ATZLAN, and what I see of migration patterns and in the arts of the Ancient Puebloans I don't think they were 'Indians or Mexicans'. I am surprised/shocked by how separate/alienated people have become. Time to peel back history and imagine where we all came from and what has influenced our viewpoints. I suggest reading "1491" "Masked Gods" "House of Rain" "Road to Atzlan" "Guns, Germs & Steel" "Autobiography of a Blue Eyed Devil". There's so much to re-learn.
43815904native said on Thursday, May 20 at 5:20 PM
well, fixture. heh. You sound like a guy who knows...I dont know if you are from Arizona or not, but alot of my HOPI brother and sisters would remember a group out of Presscott who called themselves the "Smoki" tribe. They loved native culture, took language classes, dressed up real fancy in indian costumes, learned tribal dances and songs, even got hold of ealgle feathers and pipes, made offerings at sacred sites just like Native People. A whole mess of things, just following their hearts I suppose...LOL, sharing your road I guess....I could'nt support that and niether could the hopi. In this case of your "heart following" "aztecs" there are no elders to speak out because these colinialist usupers killed them all out first, destroyed their land and cultures, and now seek to Pencil themselves in as the "inheiritors" so to speak...You go ahead and believe what illusions you want. Real eyes Realize Real Lies. Native Power.
43623494permanent fixture said on Tuesday, May 18 at 3:13 PM
Native... perhaps you should leave the 'T' out of your name. What makes you think you know the agenda behind the 'mexicans' reclaiming their native ancestry? As if they all share the same agenda. I've been watching some of these people and I've found that whatever it is that drives each of them to their past cultures, the one commonality they share is this: They will not stop.And why should they? People will follow their hearts if it makes them happy. You cannot take credit for your ability to 'prove' your own ancestry.Yes, some of those people are backwards in their motives for 'going native.' But there are those that are only following their hearts. And I'm not going to be the guy to tell them their hearts are wrong. Unfortunately, there are some enrolled tribal members that are the forerunners of the exploitation of their own cultures.Naturally, all of the abusers will be weeded out eventually. As for me, as long as the person is following their heart, I'll share the road with them.
43457467Native said on Monday, May 17 at 5:43 PM
uhh guzman, el presidente aztec of North America, did you get a dna test? or you just self-proclaimed yourself the president? did you hold an election or somthing? LOL! good luck with that. I live in Arizona, land of Natives, and any mexican can claim to be, and alot of them do, but still have no proof or evidence.And all they do is spout racism and hate about "el gringo". But to real native people you are "el gringo" too. You do not have our Native Peoples intrests at heart. Only the political exploitation of our liveing history and culture. You are grave robbers and cultural theives.
43392977TomS said on Saturday, May 15 at 12:15 PM
The Barrack Obama led-United States State Depart updated their MEXICO Advisory "This information is current as of today, Sat May 15 2010 09:10:07 GMT-0700 (MST)"/ MEXICO For US citizens traveling into Mexico, PLEASE BE ADVISED! Millions of U.S. citizens safely visit Mexico each year. This includes tens of thousands who cross the border every day for study, tourism or business and at least one million U.S. citizens who live in Mexico. The Mexican government makes a considerable effort to protect U.S. citizens and other visitors to major tourist destinations. Resort areas and tourist destinations in Mexico do not see the levels of drug-related violence and crime reported in the border region and in areas along major drug trafficking routes. Nevertheless, crime and violence are serious problems. While most victims of violence are Mexican citizens associated with criminal activity, the security situation poses serious risks for U.S. citizens.
43287597One Little Indian said on Saturday, May 15 at 11:18 AM
Why isn't there a cap on how long a baby born to an illegal receives foodstamps, medicaid, subsidized housing & free education? That's the loophole - kids being born to illegals. There is curently a cap on how long anyone receives TANF (5 yrs I think). How about something like that instead of a law that might affect me and my kids?
43285294NightHawk said on Saturday, May 15 at 2:57 AM
Wannabes. A drop of blood makes you human. Not one of us. If you want to make believe go back to the real below the border, and join them. Live with them for ten or twenty years as one. Don't write books, sing songs, beat drums that sound like they belong in a movie while dressed up as ten different Nations. All for money or to get something out of it. (mostly for your self)
43271462NightHawk said on Saturday, May 15 at 2:49 AM
The Navajo rez is no where near the border, but over a thousand illegals cross it every day. Same with ours, and that doesn't count the drug runners. Breaking into our homes, killing livestock and plants. Stealing anything they can, and beating up and robbing people. Of course selling drugs as well real cheap. If you didn't know it local cops don't come on the reservations. You run into them in Town, but in AZ they can tell the difference between a Mexican and N'dee, Hopi, Dine' and all the rest. Besides that a simple call on their radio checks everyone out. If your stopped for a reason they can tell if your wanted for a crime or driving without a lin.. So they run a added check to see if your also a illegal. So what? If you are your breaking the law. The law in AZ is the same as the Federal Law only it gives the State rights. Just so you know by Fed. Law only ICE can make raids, and those have been stopped.
43271307Henry Guzman Villalobos (Aztec-Yaqui Native American Indian) said on Saturday, May 15 at 1:03 AM
Mexicans from Native Mexico and Mexican-Americans born in the U.S.A., are descendants of Native American Indians from the North American Continent. Mexico, U.S.A., and Canada, are in the North American Continent. The Ancient Homeland of the Aztecs and Mexicans, is the present-day Great Salt Lake, Utah. In 1064 AD, the Aztecs (Mexicans) embarked on their sacred journey to the southern part of North America, now called Mexico.Not all Mexicans are Aztecs, some Mexicans are Apaches, Hopi, Comanche, Utes, Shoshone, Paiute, Cahuilla, and from many other Native American Nations.The Aztecs-Mexicans, are the descendants of the Ancient Anasazi from the state of Utah. Today, many full-blooded Native Americans from Mexico, are in the U.S.A. Some full-blooded Native people from Mexico, working in the hot fields in California, do not speak Spanish nor English, they only speak their Native languages. We are many Native Nations from the Americas. We are One People.
43269174TomS said on Friday, May 14 at 11:50 PM
SPANISH LANGUAGE the Language of the White Conquerors to the New World! Isn't the SPANISH lanuage the spoken word of CONQUERORS in the New World! Spaniards by definition are Europeans. Anti-Illegal immigration proponents espouse RACISM and HATE against 'whites' and 'Europeans', YET, the entire Central Americas have a language deeply rooted in SPANISH! If these so-called natives peoples are 'natives' then why do THEY SPEAK SPANISH! This is the irony to this accusation on the part of these RACIST groups, they espouse hate to 'whites' yet they speak the language of 'whites'!
43266602Deborah Sevenwolves said on Friday, May 14 at 6:58 PM
If the Arizona government was really concern about undocumented immigrants. they would penalize people who employ them with very heavy fines and or imprisonment. Such a move would cut the illegal immigrant problem by at least 75% So why wasn't such a law implemented? Why this one? I believe it is to reinstate some form of "jim crow" and to ensure that politcal power remains in EuroAmerican hands.
43254137Jesus B Ochoa said on Friday, May 14 at 4:51 PM
I am half native peoples, raramuri and tepehuan, from the other side of the border. Guess what? Scratch a Mexican, undocumented or not, on this side of the border, and you will find that he or she is probably within 1/4th, more or less, and statistically, more, of native peoples blood. Think about it, and stop being so discriminatory to your brothers or sisters, who really are that, whether you like it or not. And by the way, we don't need a federal stamp of approval nor to be born on a reservation to cherish and honor our blood. Deal with it.
43247287NativeLife said on Thursday, May 13 at 5:39 PM
Continue> Do you think that illegals should be protected whenever they are stopped for breaking a law here in arizona?? Or should they be allowed to stay here because no one should ever inquire about their legal status here? It has already been said that our Tribal I.D.s are going to satisfy the law. I want that grandmother to feel safe in her own home and lands. I want all those who break the laws that protect my Family, children, Elders, lands to be brought to JUSTICE. If you do not belive in this America or support its laws then go somewhere else and break all the laws you want, sell transport and take all the drugs you want. March in the streets and make an idiot of yourself sticking up for the destruction of your people and culture, support all the ideological Colonial masters you can find, be a slave, be an obamazombie, Wear a burka, cheguevara tshirt all you want, wave the mexican flag...whatever you want. Just dont lie and expect me to belive the racist lies and propaganda.
43174134NativeLife said on Thursday, May 13 at 5:24 PM
Dinewoman(?). Ok imagine this O'odham grandmother, and this really happened out here, not just a hypothetical, was stopped driving her truck out on the dirtroad from her house going out to the pavement road a halfmile from her house. A large branch of a mesquite tree was pulled into the road where it crossed the wash. She got out and 20 illegals rushed her from behind the trees and beat her. they had big sticks of that hard mesquite and beat her, her arm and fingers were broken, they stole her truck and left her there, broken and bleeding. It was a while longer when another O'odham traveled down the road and saw her and called the police and ambulance. None of the illegals/mexicans were ever caught. This is the situation out here everyday for our elders and those who cannot defend themselves. When those illegal get to Pheonix, do you really think they deserve to be protected?? Do you think that that would be the ONLY TIME they would ASSAULT AN ELDER?? Why should we protect (continue)
43173047yellowhawk said on Thursday, May 13 at 4:53 PM
how bout we just allow all illegal immigrants into this country and see how fast this country falls because as it is were almost there. people scream about human rights. why weren't you people fighting for your human rights in your own country? now we are being forced to fight for ours. were in a financial crisis and were somehow suppose to support these people. this makes no sense unless of course it was planned that way. you thought our standard of living was bad before just wait. new blood for the system to suck the life out of. be sure to line up your children incl. yourselves for the free government eugenics vaccination program. i'm pretty sure i'll be banned from posting comments on this site because we live in a country of free speech. NOT!
43170747yellowhawk said on Thursday, May 13 at 2:08 PM
just another distraction to focus on to further your governments agenda by promoting a race war to yet again further their agenda and people fall for it every time. meanwhile, world government is being set up right before your eyes except you can't see it through all the bs. it won't matter what race you are by the time its all said and done.
43157697innocent one said on Thursday, May 13 at 2:08 PM
If you cross the North Korean Border illegally you get 12 years hard labor. If you cross the Iranian Border illegally you are detained indefinitely. If you cross the Afghan border illegally you get shot. If you cross the Saudi Arabian border illegally you will be jailed. If you cross the Chinese border illegallly you may never be heard from again. If you cross the Venezuelan border illegally you will be branded a spy and your fate will be sealed. If you cross the Cuban border illegally you will be thrown into political prison to rot. If you cross the U.S. border illegally you get: a job a drivers liesne social security card food stamps credit cards subsidized rent or a loan to buy a house free education free health care a lobbyist in Washington billions of dollars worth of public documents printed in your language, commercials on television in your language, people hired who are bilingual so you can be understood in stor
43157692nazarchaeologist said on Thursday, May 13 at 1:33 PM
The biggest problem is that no one understands what it is like to walk in another person's shoes. Here for example why this law is not well thought out. If a person crosses the border illegally carrying a baby, and lives in the US for 20 years illegally. That baby grows up in a society but is not a legal citizen, with this law, that person can be deported or detained simply because they are not a citizen because the process for citizenship requires one to enter the country legally, that person is now a criminal not of their own doing, but their parent who brought them over here illegally is the criminal. We cannot forget what the Europeans did here but they are not going anywhere, we need to act to educate not hate. Be strong for ourselves not bow down to the narrowminded concept of this Arizona law.
43154459Frank said on Thursday, May 13 at 10:23 AM
If a grandmother only spoke Dine', then she's not going to be arrested because the border patrol isn't going to understand her either, so they'll know she isn't speaking spanish. A check of the license plate would show the truck is from the reservation so that would be the first clue to anyone. Another thing is there really aren't any Natives who don't at least understand a few phrases in English. Maybe 30 or 40 years ago you might have someone who didn't understand but anyone born after 1910 would be exposed to English through technology and their children and grandchildren. They could easily say - I am from Shiprock.
43137207NightHawk said on Thursday, May 13 at 6:35 AM
What is your GrandMother doing driving? No one can be stopped unless they have reason to be stopped first. Read the law it's the same as the Federal Law only it gives the State the same rights to act. If you don't break the law you have nothing to worry about, and if your not an illegal on top of that you have less to worry about. There is nothing racial in this law or based on the shade of skin. By Federal Law all those here under Immigration Laws and Programs have to have their papers/ID's with them. Illegals are breaking the law just by being here. They are using fake ID's, SSN, and so on or they are stolen. That's after breaking the law by breaking into this Country, and destroying property on their way in. Their bearking law after law, and taking and taking with out giving. They need to be going now.
43123384Dine Woman said on Thursday, May 13 at 1:01 AM
My relations, This law is a threat to all. Imagine your grandmother traveling to phoenix and she forgets her wallet and her ID. She gets pulled over, suspected of being illegal only on the basis of her skin color. She does not speak English for she only knows her native tongue, Dine. All she wants to do is visit her children and grandchildren in Phoenix but she is arrested for not having documentation. Is this justice? Should we really support a law that would subject our family members to this injustice? Does the police officer have the right to arrest a true "American" simply because she forgot her wallet on the kitchen table? Should we have to endure the fees to release her from jail for one mild mistake? Let us honor Chief Joseph words, "All men were made by the same Great Spirit Chief. They are all brothers. The Earth is the mother of all people, and all people should have equal rights upon it.Let me be a free. free to travel, free to stop, free to work."
43115384NightHawk said on Wednesday, May 12 at 5:29 PM
I'm not Red, Brown or Black, and the last person who called me a Red Man was left sitting on the ground. I'm a full blood American N'dee, and First Generation U.S. Citizen who's parents, and all of theirs before them came from right here. I;ve seen wannabes, fakes and plastic play Indians come and go, and these are just another group trying to use us for their own ends. Come down and live a while on our reservations, and see how they are destroyed by the illegals. How the Government turns it's head, and makes believe everything is nice. At least till the wind blows, and their jobs are at stake. The illegals need to go, and the fools need to be voted out of office.
43094469Plantation happiness said on Wednesday, May 12 at 4:16 PM
sadly there will always be those who are happy to be on the plantation otherwise known as the "house Indian". " yes sir...here's my paper..". Crazy Horse died to not sign the paper and is remembered for his courage. Maybe recommend those with memory loss on history at least watch Avatar movie a few times to get picture.
43088787Red Bear said on Wednesday, May 12 at 12:38 PM
We never welcomed the Europeans our own pity got us into trouble. I was Born on Stolen Lands. If there was a Human Race noone would WIN. Its the Drugs i dont like not the Mexicans separate the DRUGS FROM THE MAN YOU MIGHT JUST END UP WITH A GREAT HUMANBEING. .....OSA ROJA
43070437RezDog said on Wednesday, May 12 at 11:37 AM
The Republican governor of California says he's staying out of Arizona because he says his accent in speaking English would cause him to be deported back to Austria.
43065412Iktomi and disportionate secondary arrests of NDNz said on Tuesday, May 11 at 11:37 PM
Iktomi promises and then puts the sack over the head of his victim and clubs them for dinner. To all those NDNz who feel safe about showing their tribal ID (if in fact it is recognized as valid by the officer(s));there is nothing said about secondary offenses during routine paper check. Most reservations have no jobs, so the male population gets in trouble, not always their fault; non payment of child support is a typical one, can't even get a driver license (what they gonna do???) This opens up new doors for new kinds of problems with Indian people; and for those Indians who think they are upstanding and no problem; try being in a state where there is a clear dual system of justice and clear record of racism, and police misconduct. If this is about locking down the border, rather than checking papers on the streets; SB1070 should be about sending the AZ National Guard to run sentry duty along the border and make it tighter than Guatanamo Bay and pretend the Mexican are Cubans.
43035097ray said on Tuesday, May 11 at 6:58 PM
Maybe we should start asking all white people for ID's when the come on our rez.
43021172Owlsong said on Tuesday, May 11 at 3:15 PM
It is not good to be judged by the color of your skin. SB 1070 if passed will drive anyone who is red, brown and black out of Arizona. The whites want to take over.
43006102Elder said on Tuesday, May 11 at 3:06 PM
What is wrong with you people? I will gladly show my Tribal card to anyone and everyone who asks. Stop the illegals and stop them at the borders. Why has the United States let this happen. This is a country and we have the right to stop all from crossing our borders illegally. This President is not doing his job. The last President didn't do his job either. All border states need to enact the Arizona law since this government isn't doing it. How dare the president shake its finger at Arizona. Shame on Obama, he is a failure. And we Native Americans fell for it.
43005459Arizona is Apache land said on Monday, May 10 at 8:57 PM
great job arizona is doing keeping out the illegal aliens, out of ndn country, less problems with them, but remember the Anglo Canadians, Chinese, Autrialians, New Zealand, England, ETC, they are also illegals who dont speak english also.
42956782alex said on Monday, May 10 at 7:24 PM
why did americans come to mack things differint we were fine the way we were before.
42951799Just an AZ NDN said on Monday, May 10 at 1:53 PM
It's not about NDNs supporting illegals, it's about putting a stop to similar legislation that started the Holocaust - the gradual reduction of rights, then boycotts of Jewish businesses, then reduced to mere servants of the master race. It all starts w/a piece of stupid legislation. There's got ot be a better way.
42932624PimaThonoMan said on Sunday, May 9 at 2:19 AM
ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL. My wife is from France. She had to wait months to get a "green card" then go through interviews with INS. She is a Resident Alien till she becomes a citizen. That is the process. That is the law and she abides by it. There are thousands of people in this country who disregard our immigration laws and have caused accidents even deaths, not all of them but some have. I grew up in Phoenix and know the Hispanic community there. They are also upset with illegals coming into their communities and causing mayhem, not all of them but some have done this. The loudest protests about this new law are coming from people who don't live in Arizona or even the border states where illegal immigration is problematic. If someone is stopped for an offense THEN the police may request identification if they suspect otherwise. Police aren't going to be trolling the streets asking everyone for identification! Stop the misinformation. Shame on anyone who knowingly breaks our laws.
42867099NATIVE FOR "J. BREWER" said on Sunday, May 9 at 2:08 AM
This is in response to the following comment…SPEAK ENGLISH, BREAK NO LAW…NO PROBLEM. This doesn’t affect Native People of Arizona. La Raza wants you to think so! So all you NDN peeps who support this law think it's OK to have to carry ur "papers" everywhere you go!? This is the frickin US of A a.k.a land of the free! Where does it state in this law that the state of AZ will accept ANY form of Tribal ID EVER or ever train the police to recognize such ID!? Yeah all u smart NDNs who support this law, go back and read the law.
42866932NightHawk said on Sunday, May 9 at 12:30 AM
Mexican is not a race, and they are not Indian. Even if some have a drop of blood it only makes them human and nothing more. They are only trying to use us as any fake and wannabe does. They need to go back to where they belong. If they want to come here they can under the laws and programs set up for it. Read the law it's the same as the Federal one, and there is nothing racial in it. They are trying to make it that way to get people on their side. Until they read it. All these people do is break the law, and destroy coming here. Send them away, and don't let them come back unless they do it the right way. If they want to become "Indian" let it be with their own people there.
42864952Native said on Sunday, May 9 at 12:11 AM
Boycott Brewer!!!
42864477devil's abdocate said on Saturday, May 8 at 10:24 PM
What could happen if USA economic ends? where the natives going to get their handout welfare checks? The will be no money for casinos
42861224native said on Saturday, May 8 at 9:03 PM
the focuses on the ILLEGALS not the indigenous native americans.If we have disagreements with the us government on issues pertaining to indigenous native population.Then this law does not pertain to us.It does pertain to the ILLEGALS,the same group that caused much aggravation for many years.for decades or longer these illegals have brought problems with them,and they also used the reservations for illegal activities.They have weapons,drugs,gangs come and go as they wish.they corrupt,or seek corrupt officials for support.there are incidents of rape of our women,drug distribution,brothels established,assaults,homicides,intimidation of tribal members,in there are incidents of them occupying the native lands.Now what ever arizona government beef with these people are it`s not ours it`s arizonas problem,when they continue to violate our people,our lands,then we have a right to defend ourselves,the tribes have this just argument with the illegal occupation of tribal lands for over 500 years
42858562justice seeker said on Saturday, May 8 at 6:49 PM
THIS IS NOT about “Illegals.” It’s not about “drug smugglers” or “terrorists crossing the border.” It’s about “those Indians”, non-whites coming back into land that is still "Native" land,land stolen from us the Nican Tlaca, the Indigenous people of this continent. It’s all about the white supremacists wanting to keep what they stole.They want to keep their settler nation pure white.They want to make sure the “Indians” don’t come back onto the land that was stolen from all “Indians”, stolen collectively from all Turtle Island. White supremacists want to make sure that whites keep what they stole. Stolen land from Plymouth Rock to Texas to California, all of it stolen.Stolen land will always be the true collective property of Nican Tlaca or Turtle Island, collectively the property of all Turtle Island, no matter how many centuries pass. We are still here! And that's what bothers them. We are an inconvenience, a reminder of their crimes.European settlers stole every piece of Land
42854337true navajo said on Saturday, May 8 at 4:02 PM
What immigration laws were put to place by native americans? Does welcoming evil strangers always work?...everybody who is not of Native American origin should be sent back to where ancestors came from. Mexican are 95% natives of continent of America....
42848674NAVAJO said on Saturday, May 8 at 1:07 PM
Don't do anything ILLEGAL and you'll do just fine! Obey the United State laws. Driving around with identification papers would be just like driving with your registration and car insurance papers. If you speak English...don't worry. The mexicans make it a big deal because they either are illegal, don't speak english and don't have car insurance or drivers license.
42842212rezzy said on Saturday, May 8 at 12:53 PM
I'm for J. Brewer's decision on Immigration. Our ancestors fought mexicans throughout history. they stole/killed children, women, men, burned our cornfields, chopped our peach trees, killed our animals. THIS ISN'T ABOUT RACE. It's about the illegals in our state/country illegally. Take a stand Native People. Many United States citizens have had their civil rights violated through identity thief, being killed (like the rancher). They could careless about being Indian until they're between a rock and a hard place...then they claim Indian heritage, otherwise they claim WHITE as their race. Al Sharpton/Bushy Head is for illegal, deceit, dishonesty. He fails to see the civil rights that were violated to law abiding citizens of the United States.
42841587Leave well-enough alone said on Saturday, May 8 at 9:04 AM
We as North American Indians have suffered greatly and for many years in order to finally be in pretty good standing with the euro invaders. We should not be expected to empathize with these low-lives, these wannabes. Especially the ones who are trying to identify with their aboriginal ancestry. I say we ridicule them and greet them with hate. We need to distance ourselves from them completely. What will Uncle Sam say if he catches us associating with those dirty brown people? Whatever we do, we must not try to help them rediscover in their hearts what it means to be Indian. "SB1070 is endorsed by Heaven itself!!"
42830034TomS said on Friday, May 7 at 10:13 PM
Quote taken from the State of Californa Code on handling Illegals: AL. PEN. CODE § 834b : California Code - Section 834b (a)Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws. b)With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following: (1)Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. HOW MANY OF YOU WILL BOYCOTT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AS WELL?
42812952mix blood said on Friday, May 7 at 6:41 PM
The only good part of this new law is that business owners who hire illegal immigrant workers get fined with the possibility of losing their business license. The sad part is that it turns brown people against brown people based on stereotypes and grounded in fear (real or imagined). Oh yeah---ain't it great that there is at least someone that ndns can look down on now? (with white man's approval too!) NO MORE BOTTOM MAN !!!
42805482Dwight Ash PT said on Friday, May 7 at 6:12 PM
60-70% of Mexicans are mestizos, mixed breed between natives and castilian white Spanish. If you look closely they look like native Americans. It is hypocritical that there is so much prejudice toward tribal Indians in Mexico and I don't understand it? Illegals and their drugs should stay south of the border.
42804154Double edged said on Friday, May 7 at 4:22 PM
I'm native but look Mexican & have dealt with being mistaken for Mexican/Spanish all of my life! I've gone thru "random" check lines & I always seem to be the one random card everytime! I know it's my looks & while I don't like it, I know that it is for my own safety. I don't think that racial profiling is going away anytime soon in light of the world circumstances that we now live in. But that does not make it right for those of us that look a certain way. I've often been more accepted by Mexican and Spanish people more so than by my own people, and in my own country too. I'm a nonfederally recognized Indian. And,to be non-federally recognized is to be treated like a non-native by not only other American Indians, but the government as well. Take for instance the current consultation meetings being held by the White House and federal agencies with federally recognized Indian tribes only. Let's face it - it all hurts!
42797774TOnative said on Friday, May 7 at 3:21 PM
I support the law, only because I live here out on the border and have to deal EVERY day with illegals and the problems they bring. Just yesterday morning I saw a mehicana sitting under a tree by the road(way out on the backroads). I stopped and talked to her, she wanted to be picked up by the BP's. I gave her my beansingle, and told her to stay there. As soon as I got back in cell range I call the TOPD to contact the BPs with the location. In the evening I passed tru and stopped to read the tracks, BP made it and she was picked up. Yep, sucks. She should have just gone down to the US immigration office and applied LEGALLY for a visa of some sort, rather than attempting to kill herself out in the desert. I think they should just follow the law like anyone else. I have to do the same when i travel in mexico, which has much tougher laws than here. Any mexican could tell you that. They get away with too much already. Support the Law.
42793114NativeLife said on Friday, May 7 at 2:17 PM
well this seems well for us redbear, And the subject is not RACE, we can all live together and choose life. The issue is LAW, and the representation of law is blind to appearance. We should focus on LEGALITY, because that is the whole POINT of this law. Natives in Arizona, my homelands, have every RIGHT to be here. I will not be deported nor will my relatives or my children. We have the RIGHT to be here. An illegal person, regardless of "color", if they break the law (drugdealing, smuggling, childmolesting, murdering, theivery, etc.etc) will eventually be found out and besides criminal charges, eventually face deportation. I love anyone, if they follow the laws that protects my peoples and my lands. I honor those that become LEGAL U.S. citizens, the right way, following the LAW. Because I will follow the law also. Let those who choose NOT to follow the law face the consequences of their actions. All my realations.
42780409Red Bear=(Osa Roja) said on Friday, May 7 at 1:42 PM
In every Being there is Love and Hate but one has to be stronger. Thats up too the people... I love Eve Mendes and Halle Berry and Cheech and Chong. I wouldnt mind meeting these Beautiful people...Love Red Bear
42777097SB 1070 is targeting Hispanics/Mexicans said on Friday, May 7 at 1:40 PM
Everyone knows it. The latent function of this Bill is to weed out Mexican's. If you look at the White Mountain Independent newspaper online there are some very racist remarks. I am not worried about myself getting deported because I am citizen of the USA and an enrolled member of an Arizona tribe. But my appearance looks Hispanic/Mexican in Tucson and Phoenix people always talk to me in Spanish. My sister was on a bus near the Texas, New Mexico border when it was stopped and all the passengers were ordered off by the Border Patrol. As they were exiting based on their appearance the Border Patrol were separating Mexican looking people from white people. My sister did not even know what was happening, she was not asked for any ID, nothing. Then the group of Mexicans she was placed with were told to board this green and white bus. ONLY AFTER she asked one of the officers what was going on, did he ask her for ID and where she was from, her American Accent gave her away.
42776879Red Bear said on Friday, May 7 at 1:37 PM
Mexicans dont share the same Blood as we do. the word mexicans came from the ones that are living as Americans certainly they once had thyre own Tribal Identities as Oaxaca,michoacan Etc. I myself experienced a few mexicans who were DrugDealers in Utah at my Sisters Apt now i think of it they werent very respectable. I believe they were purchasing Indian females for there own pleasures besides involving my sisters Daughter and even my Sister. Not all mexicans are like that there some i know that eat the medicine and have respect this happened in Utah. We as Natives in this country should try and help ourselves that the only way we can help other peoples. in every Being theres Good and BAD ...
42776539Have Problems of Our Own said on Friday, May 7 at 12:45 PM
Why are we Natives involving ourselves in the issue between AZ & Mexicans? Yes, the ID issue is going to spread to other states and inconvenience Native people. But, if your an enrolled Native with ID, which we'll have if we are truly Natives, we'll be okay. Legal Mexicans in our City feel that all the immigrants should enter the US in the legal way that they had to. When we have people sneaking over the borders, we get the non -desirables, criminals, ID thiefs, etc. Perhaps, Arizona has started the beginning of controlling illegals, an issue that should have been dealt with a long time ago by the Govt. As Natives we have our own struggles to deal with, without worrying about people who don't want to obey the laws, for whatever reasons. Yes, feeding family in Mexico is an important issue, but there is no justification for being lawless. Illegals should become legal with no amnesty! Let them earn the right to be US citizens like others have to do. Let's get real and not radical!
42772247Arizona Indian said on Friday, May 7 at 10:00 AM
It's not about proving who you are, but rather, proving your a citizen in this country or able to work here legally. Only when I apply for a job do I have "to prove" that I can work in the US, any other time I just have to prove who I am and all you Indians who support this law feel it's okay to have to prove you're not only an Indian, but that your a citizen of this country? There's only certain times I have to prove my citizenship, walking down the street and possibly being a victim of a crime doesn't constitute that I have to prove I'm a citizen. I challenge you all to go to AZ and see if this bill doesn't tend to get under our "skin."
42759359Vitamin, Mineral or Vegetable said on Friday, May 7 at 2:05 AM
We are all human beings, I didnt know Mexicans changed their category from "human being" to vitamin, mineral or vegetable?
42744787Apache said on Friday, May 7 at 1:06 AM
Mexicans were "human beings" at one time. They were conquered by Spain thus losing their native tougue and now speak only spanish. American Indians were almost wiped out by Europeans and are slowly losing their language and way of life. This was done because of the doctorine of the roman catholic church. Think big and face the real fight!
42742989TomS said on Friday, May 7 at 12:20 AM
It is soo blatent and obvious how the TV Newsstations DO NOT REPORT the NEWs rather they stir it up (Much like Jerry Springer). CNN, NBC, CBS, Foxnews are only interested in TV Media sensationalism and their reporting to particularly Race-baiting. Then there are people the likes of Al Sharpton (A Devil in sheep's clothing) I 've read the SB 1070, and there is absolutely nothing, nothing whatsoever indicating race or color. My question to you all - the pawns and pundits being used by alligned political demoncats - have you read the bill? Can we talk of the bill than just RACE? Yawn....It is soo sorry to witness how most who identify with being 'indigenous' as being used again.....much like violin strings (being plucked) to no tune whatsoever. If Barrack Obama was so quick to dump his Dad, deny his mother, drop his pastor, disassociate himself with agitators and terrorists to the US Govt., think how quickly he will drop "Indigenous" peoples if WHEN they don't fit his agenda?
42741362native said on Friday, May 7 at 12:13 AM
of the many problems that beset the reservations,this group of parallel schemers,using the native tribes for support, is an insult.native tribes are indigenous,not these illegals,the tribes on both sides of the border,should stop this intrusion by this group.evidence shows they abuse the native tribes,they bring drugs,tribes women have been raped,their contraband of drugs gangs,weapons and other crimes committed go unabated,they procure illegal documentation to stay there,they corrupt the society,with illegal citizenship through illegal documentation.there are gangs of illegals that terrorizing the reservations,the reservations are ill equipped to deal with this.the governments do little or nothing.tribes fear that their reservation they called sanctuary will ceased to exist.these intruders have no respect for indigenous tribal members north and south of the border.the only ones that can enforce and protect their lands from these intruders are themselves.pursue a strategy of survival.
42741109Identification and discrimination said on Thursday, May 6 at 11:21 PM
It's been...two weeks since the bills passing. 90 days from that it will go into effect. Having to show your Identification is not a discriminatory practice. Again, I will repeat myself and that of numerous others on this page, we show our identity cards everyday. The only people labeling people are the indigenous people (SEE TITLE OF ARTICLE...)
42738814Candace Colbert Odom said on Thursday, May 6 at 11:09 PM
The point of entry is where the illegals should be stopped. People that have lived here all their lives and have gone to war for our freedom should not be put through any discriminatory practices by the police or National Guard or any other military forces. It really disappoints me in the way people want to start labeling people...
42738189mn native said on Thursday, May 6 at 9:35 PM
IF THEY DONT WANT IT ARIZONA THATS THERE RIGHT ! AND IT IS THE LAW ITS NOT BEING RACIAL HECK ITS RACIAL ALL THE TIME THEN IF U ARE CAUGHT BREAKING THE LAW AND HAVE TO SHOW ID OR FOR WHAT EVER REASON !
42733537USA Native Woman said on Thursday, May 6 at 9:20 PM
I just want to say that I completely support Arizona and the SB1070 law. I hope it will spread to other states as soon as possible. I do not respect any illegals crossing over here whatsoever.
42732807Candace Colbert Odom said on Thursday, May 6 at 9:03 PM
They did not approve my last post so I'll state it another way... This law is very abusive to my people and other people who have the same skin color as mine. When the Harvard Professor was arrested in the middle of the night because a neighbor saw him break into his own house cause he lost his key... Then, Obama invited him to the White House to have a beer with the policeman that arrested him and threw him in jail. This is the same situation, the professor was arrested cause of the color of his skin and it was racial profiling by the neighbor. Obama stood up for his brother, invited them all over to make nice and now with this bill they can go after Native Americans and Hispanic/Americans and Mexican/Americans just for their skintone. It is unconstitutional, illegal, immoral, and totally, un-American!!!
42732054Candace Colbert Odom said on Thursday, May 6 at 8:04 PM
I don't agree with this law. I guess the gov't feels they have to oppress some group to make them feel they have the power and authority over someone else... They tried to go after the Harvard Professor who was a member of Obamas Tribe and they had to have a Pow-Wow on the White House lawn and sing Kum-bah-yah together and pass a beer around so everyone would come to an understanding... Maybe thats what needs to happen... all the Native Americans, Spaniards, Mexican/Americans, Latinos, Barbarinos, and Americanized Cubanos show up for a beer on the White House lawn to show our compatible side???
42720984To 2:59 tasin said on Thursday, May 6 at 7:58 PM
"Why do I care what the laws of the U.S. are" and "Their (U.S.) border is just an imaginary line." Well if you arent a citizen of the U.S. you shouldnt care. The imaginary line you are referring to represents a boundary. I have personal boundaries, now, when you see me, I dont have a dotted or solid line outlining my form, but there is a boundary, its a personal boundary. When I go out in public and am with people, I respect their boundaries even though I cant see it. If I were to invade someones boundaries, and they got upset, I cant say..."oh, your boundary is imaginary,I can put my hands on you all I want". I have to break it down for you to understand that if you want the U.S. to put up a wall because you need one, and knowing there is a boundary isnt enough, then we American indians can start advocating for that.
42720739To: 7:12 AM Turtle Prints said on Thursday, May 6 at 7:49 PM
I dont know if you ever listen to the news or read the papers, but back in September 2001 everyone has had to show their Papers a.k.a. identification (drivers license, passport) to prove that we are U.S. citizens and not illegal. In reading up to page 4, I have yet to come across that anyone who "simply looks spanish is to arrested without probably cause". It might be on page 8, but I wont know till I read that part. This is a free society as long as you obey the laws that are in place to protect U.S. citizens. Just like having a drivers license is mandatory to operate a vehicle, you need your identity to carry out your life in this country. If you feel that Mexico or the South America continent is freer, there is a group of people calling themselves indigenous and they have no qualms about you being free to wander all over the place down there.
42720262To Tasin said on Thursday, May 6 at 7:40 PM
To Tasin @ 6:19 PM So, all true American indians that disgree with you identify with our oppressors? Many American Indians serve in the Armed Forces: army, navy, airforce, Marines. Many went to Universities and got their education. We assimilated. We adapted. We overcame. And we're still working on it. How we are doing, is none of your business. Just like what you do, is none of our business until you start making trouble for us in our communities. You are indigenous, a vague, we true American Indians know who we are. We aren't indigenous in your definition. But we are more indigenous than you in the U.S. Just like the American Eagle belongs here, the parrot belongs in South America.
42719814testing said on Thursday, May 6 at 7:32 PM
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42719507SB1070 all the way! said on Thursday, May 6 at 7:30 PM
To Wilbur Nelson May 4 at 4:19 PM: The UN indigenous declaration was not agreed to by the United States because the declaration fails to provide a clear definition of exactly whom the term "indigenous peoples" is intended to cover. Not to mention that it could be used to usurp the current land/water/funding of recognized U.S. Tribes. Since the U.S. disagreed with the declaration your argument is invalid in this country. Since the declaration is an idea and does not override any one Country's laws, it is invalid. No one is saying you dont have human rights. We're just saying that we dont want you stealing our culture and identity and not being clear in who you are, to get what you want. Your indigenous argument, while valid in your country, applies to you in your country, not the U.S. and not with the U.S. Tribes.
42719437Wandering Native in AZ said on Thursday, May 6 at 6:59 PM
So all you NDN peeps who support this law think it's OK to have to carry ur "papers" everywhere you go!? This is the frickin US of A a.k.a land of the free! Where does it state in this law that the state of AZ will accept ANY form of Tribal ID EVER or ever train the police to recognize such ID!? Yeah all u smart NDNs who support this law, go back, read the law and get a clue & quit being "hang-around-the-fort NDNS.
42714929Wandering Native in AZ said on Thursday, May 6 at 6:57 PM
So all you NDN peeps who support this law think it's OK to have to carry ur "papers" everywhere you go!? This is the frickin US of A a.k.a land of the free! Where does it state in this law that the state of AZ will accept ANY form of Tribal ID EVER or ever train the police to recognize such ID!? Yeah all u smart NDNs who support this law, go back and read the law.
42714572arizonaresident said on Thursday, May 6 at 5:39 PM
This is another way of implementing "the status quo" of racial profiling ON all minority people of all races to the point of GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENCE. Decent Native Americans from the Southern border to Northern Arizona will be harassed from SR 1070 that are law abiding and WE must not give up this liberty to the STATE.
42702992ndnben2 said on Thursday, May 6 at 4:28 PM
First of all racial profiling has been around since the white man first set foot on this continent,to say it will be a byproduct of SB1070 is bullsh*t since it already exists. Blacks mexicans and natives are and always will be the target of racial profiling by the police, especially city police.mesa az cops have gotten away with murder of several minority individuals and this is documented.Second, arizona treats immigrants better than mexico does,a majority of immigarnts from other countries passing through Mexico on their way to the U.S. are sexually assaulted while in MEXICO!!!!! and this is documented as well!!Do I agree with SB1070? yes and no, yes because somthing does need to be done about the drugs and violence that is increasing due to drug and human smuggling from mexico but from a federal level! and no becuse this is just another example of mighty whitey doing his dirty buisness!!!! and this needs to end.
42697389groovin said on Thursday, May 6 at 3:33 PM
Tasin-Sure, do what you wanna do. Just quit trying to convince us that these people have anything in common with us. You might have their back but they don't have yours and will never side with you or your people when it comes to standing up for your rights. I hope you realize this.
42693232tasin said on Thursday, May 6 at 2:59 PM
@hmm Mexico doesn't control my indigenous territory anymore, so they aren't my colonial masters. I don't have any love for the Mexican state, but Mexicans for the most part are indigenous, and many of them are less assimilated than their northern neighbors. Therefore it doesn't make any sense to side with the colonial power (the United States) who IS screwing over your people over ndn brothers and sisters who are separated from us by a foreign border (the U.S./Mexico or U.S./Canada border). Why do I care what the laws of the U.S. are? They are foreign laws from an empire that has tried its very best to exterminate every one in my ethnicity, through war, ecological destruction, and assimilation. Their border is just an imaginary line. The people moving across it are real, and they are survivors of European genocide. I throw my lot in with them, and against the imperial police state.
42690829Apache Woman said on Thursday, May 6 at 1:26 PM
As indigenous people we roamed the open land and defended our territories to keep our people from harm. In 2010 we need to keep this in mind especially with terrorism on the rise. Native people are suffering from drug addictions in which a majority of drugs are from Mexico which leads to other social and economic problems on the reservations. I have gone to other countries and I was always asked for identification. The Immigration law is a plus for native country.
42682804wisconsinanshinabe said on Thursday, May 6 at 10:10 AM
this response to Tasin's comment. As Native Americans we are defending our land. We are soverign people. Mexicans don't have that. As for Rasicm go to Northern New Mexico and see how the Hispanic cops profile the Pueblo People.
42664979Turtle Prints said on Thursday, May 6 at 7:12 AM
Here's the problem: This law makes it ILLEGAL to leave your home without "papers" and this applies to everyone (brown, white, purple) across the board. It also allows for anyone who simply "looks" Spanish to be arrested WITHOUT probable cause. How about not trampling upon my rights and the constitution? How could anyone who favors a free society support this law?? As a Native American who "looks" Spanish I would rather not be arrested while walking to work because I forgot my passport.
42653304Pals said on Thursday, May 6 at 1:42 AM
Why are Indians expected to fight on behalf of Mexicans but Mexicans are under no obligation to do anything for Indians? All these Mexicans come here but they don't lift a finger to ever help out Indians. Don't expect all these Mexican supporters to ever address that because they are only interested in using Indians for their own purposes.
42646502M. Begay said on Thursday, May 6 at 1:25 AM
Too many Uncle Tomahawks around here. Or maybe they're all Teabaggers masquerading as skins? Or maybe they would dis-enroll their own at the first chance for more per cap from the casino? Makes my heart sad to know that "we are all related" only applies to some.
42645969what the law says and what is said on Wednesday, May 5 at 11:46 PM
all we have to do is ask Leonard Peltier if the law was read and understood, and still goverment misconduct prevailed. We all have read our treaties (if our tribe has one) and it's the law under the constitution; does not mean it will be followed or guaranteed treaty rights; micro macro; this is just another license to let the white man screw up the Indian through deception, manipulation, and hate. Let's ask Leonard if all that sounds sill.
42642184NightHawk said on Wednesday, May 5 at 11:38 PM
You can't be deported by not having a ID on you. Try reading the Law. Both State and Federal which is the same. English is my third language. N'dee my first. Some of the responces are just silly, and others show they didn't read the law. Others are not of the People, and no nothing of our problems. Let alone what's going on with drugs and illegals. We need action now. Not politics out of Washington once again with delay after delay.
42641772Not in Kansas anymore said on Wednesday, May 5 at 10:50 PM
Not completely sure how it is out in Yakama Washington but states like South Dakota, Montana, Wyoming, and Nebraska....that's why South Dakota is known as "Mississippi of the North". Seems some of these card- carrying anti-mexican Indians posting on line here need to see the bigger picture. Yakima Washington is the hometown of Slade Gorden, anti Indian as anyone can be out there; wants to terminate tribes completely and did so every Congression session he ever weighed in on. Sure the white cowboys are gonna get a pass by white Immigration officers. All it takes is one white law enforcement red neck to decide he wants to mess up the life of an Indian by accidently losing the ID documents off some poor Indian and get that person exported to Mexico; and if it's an Indian that speaks English as a second language; the prosecutors and judge can easily side with the officers; and then they will laugh about it in the break room about how they sent a US Indian to Mexico. Time to be real!
42639417fullbloodedwhiteguy said on Wednesday, May 5 at 9:10 PM
My wife sons and grand children are all Lakota. We all still get a laugh out of the time we took a trip to Mexico and when coming back into the US I was the only one who had to show I was American. The law is clear and being former Tribal Police I know your treated worse by your own then anyone else. AZ law is a good one and is written in plain language. What everyone is saying is that we can trust our Police to give their life for your safety and protection but we can't trust them to do their job and obey the law themselves. Yes their will be a few that will screw up but they will get caught and will pay for their screw up. This isn't about profiling because profiling is a big part of Police work. If Police didn't profile every day they would never prevent crimes that are preventable from happening. Thank you for reading this and read the law and trust your Police before making assumptions. You know that following is not always the best thing to do, take the lead.
42633922cm said on Wednesday, May 5 at 6:59 PM
About 30 years ago, my husband and four cowboy buddies were stopped by immigration. After they produced their I.D. card they went on their way. All of them thought it was funny.This happened in Yakima, Wa. There are mass amounts of hispanics here. If they want to be here in the U.S. Stop making a big deal with flying your mexican flag. Be respectful of this country. This is the U.S.A. I understand you have problems in your native country, but you also bring those problems here. Most of you come from a lawless country and you think it's ok to continue to be lawless. You want to march in a parade, maybe it would be better to march for reform in your own county and fight to make it a better place to live. Most start out by breaking the law right off just by being here. Do it the right way. Learn the language, stop having your children talk for you. Learn the language and fly the american flag.
42628172NativeLife said on Wednesday, May 5 at 5:55 PM
ya Im the last surviving pokemon!! ayyye!
42624579Walter said on Wednesday, May 5 at 5:29 PM
NativeLife My name that was given to me reflects the history of the Mayan paople throughout all Central America; for we were persecuted before and after you guys were in the North and South, most of us fled, some hid, while others; like my family tried to assimilate to some extent. I have but one white relative; that is, my great-great-great grandmother. My father is full blooded while my mother is a little-bit mixed. Claiming Aztec heritage is synonymous with claiming Cherokee. I am not pro Aztlan or Mexica. I am a traditional Pokomam. What about yourself?
42622764NativeLife said on Wednesday, May 5 at 5:08 PM
hey walter, did you get one of them dna tests too??? What? claiming to be a "aztec" not good enough for you? are you "wilbur nelson" or "walter nelson". just asking.
42621464hmm said on Wednesday, May 5 at 5:00 PM
tasin, you seem to be identifieing with your colonial masters back in spain. WE natives here are NATIVES and AMERICANS, thank you very much. And we have an EXTREME interest in what happens in this country, our beloved United States of America. I think we have a right to ask that laws be followed for all our common welfare. Your race-baiting is not going to help anyone.
42620829Walter said on Wednesday, May 5 at 4:25 PM
I will speak as a surviving Pokomam Maya raised in the states. I am a computer engineer and business owner. I have depended on my collective family and my-self. A member of the Zapatista movement and a contributor in Mayan customs and religion. I will add that most American Indians in the North have at least one multi-racial relative. One fact might stir perhaps, in anger most of my northern brothers and Aztec relatives, but the Mayan empire reached the U.S. and Canada about 35,000 years before Europeans stole the land. It is of great honor how my northern brothers aided my people in Chiapas, yet; we should also support our mixed brothers south of the border as we do with the Metis in Canada. With all that said there should be check and balances to the patriot act and erase the borders the crown has crossed us with; since, we had none. We need to stand together against Terra Nullus, the Papal Bulls, Manifest Destiny, and White-Men's self-fulfilling prophesy.
42618577It's about border control not race said on Wednesday, May 5 at 4:01 PM
looks like it's time for the US government to require not only passports and uniform driver license to all states but to require incoporation of RFID and IUD technology in these documents. The cops then can use scanners aimed at a crowd and with scanning technology identify persons operating vehicles or walking the sidewalks without RFID technology embedded identification documents. white, Indian, Asian, black, latino, don't matter because technology will drive who gets checked and who doesn't. check points should not be aimed at just brown people soley. time for Obama to step in a make this technology widely available that military has already to track equipment and supplies down to latitude and longitude. ACLU will have a good time with that one but ACLU will challenge 1070 as it is and no real solution will be addressed in securing the borders.
42616914DONTE said on Wednesday, May 5 at 3:37 PM
THIS issue may get worse if they don,t solve the broader issue with mexico this law may hit the native people next and you have mexican indians too.
42615027Tasin said on Wednesday, May 5 at 2:19 PM
Sad how many Indians identify with their oppressor. Indians and the United States have no interest in common. Their existence is based upon our loss, and any time we back up their attempts to dig themselves deeper into this continent we are doing ourselves damage. We are indigenous, not Americans. And yes, the choice is either/or. Some of the comments on here remind me of the scouts that used to lead the American military to massacre other Indians. You are traitors to your own people if you support America's imperial plans. As for people without papers, who cares? Its not our border, first of all, it is the empire's. Second, the U.S. puts these people in the position to have to move in the first place, the U.S. is gonna have to deal with it. Third, many of the people without papers are indigenous. In my area, many are Mixtec from near Oaxaca, don't even speak Spanish. Fourth, anything that limits free movement is strengthening the police state. I believe in freedom.
42609004Pakal Hatuey said on Wednesday, May 5 at 2:19 PM
The words of a modern slave: “In this now modern age Native people have reached Soveriegnty, as always, and recognition of fellow tribespeople. the law is what holds us together, equality, tradition, defense, empowerment” The same law and lawmakers that you so compassionately defend is the laws of WHITE SUPREMACIST!
42608999Pakal Hatuey said on Wednesday, May 5 at 2:11 PM
I will again ask, Where is the courage in confronting the only real illegal alien (European) who has purposely destroyed the “old ways”? Oppression began in 1492! Genocide began in 1492! Ethnocide began in 1492! Crimes against humanity began in 1492!
42608287uhh said on Wednesday, May 5 at 1:59 PM
thats great pakal, now the Oppressor is now claiming to be the "oppressed". now you wanna have it both ways. get off the plantation. Native people support the law and the idea of law because that is how we have lived and survived these untold millenia before the coming of the colonialists. In this now modern age Native people have reached Soveriegnty, as always, and recognition of fellow tribespeople. the law is what holds us together, equality, tradition, defense, empowerment. The 'reconquesita' thing is about racism, destruction of nature, exploitation of Native people and cultures, propagnda, and the ignorance and mocking of law. I urge all natives to search out and educate themselves about those terms. there are a lot of racists, fakes and frauds who make their living spreading false claims and information about our Native struggle. If there is a buck to be made out there, you will see them !!
42607244Pakal Hatuey said on Wednesday, May 5 at 1:50 PM
Mexicans are not responsible for bringing the smallpox epidemics (killing millions), Mexicans did not put their relatives in reservations, Mexicans are not responsible for the Trail of Tears and so on. The Mexican government till this day has a goal, and that is to uphold the values of White Supremacy as do all white colonial illegal countries of the Western Hemisphere of today, in which the Honorable Evo Morales is changing this reality. The Western Hemisphere belongs to the surviving Indigenous people (full blood or mixed blood) not to the European and their descendants.
42606482Pakal Hatuey said on Wednesday, May 5 at 1:40 PM
Fact: What is today is known as Mexico, became ground zero for the European invaders to continue their Genocidal actions after they finished massacring, enslaving, raping the Indigenous population of the Antilles. Follow the logic. White Supremacy was fueled in what is today known as Mexico, leaving the surviving mixed blooded and full blooded Indigenous people to aggressively struggle to become white for their survival. I mention this because many people on this board are conveniently or ignorantly forgetting to point this fact out. The job of the European trespasser since 1492 has aggressively and CRIMAINALLY worked to turn Indigenous people into FAKE WHITES in order to steal the Western Hemisphere from its true and only owners. The issue at hand is criminal behavior that leads to the breaking of laws. Where is the courage in confronting the only real illegal alien (European) who has purposely destroyed the "OLD WAYS"?
42605672NativeLife said on Wednesday, May 5 at 1:24 PM
the mexican/chicano/COLONIALIST/latino/ladino/SPANISH/"settler nation"/EUROPEAN/opressor/fakes/frauds/theives are many. The Native people, we have always been few. In mexico, there is 6-8 percent of the population that is still NATIVE. And you can be sure that they would not be marching in America supporting the mexican oppressor. I have traveled over many roads in mexico, and sat with some of the remaining people and the message is always the same," hey mehicano, why do you protest so loudly and shamefully in America, while you deny OUR people back your own country?!?" Instead we get "atzlaners(fakes)" and race-baiters talking about taking back land for mexico, exploiting the Native history and mocking our very real Native Stuggle. 500 years and we still fight for our people against the COLONIALIST PROPAGANDA!!
42604349wisconsinanshinabe said on Wednesday, May 5 at 1:22 PM
this is a response to the Chicano's 5:31 a.m. response. You Chicanos as a whole group have never been an ally to Indians. We have been alone to fight the government. Don't use us for your gain.
42604144rezzie said on Wednesday, May 5 at 12:41 PM
These illegals are only here for the free stuff that is suppose to be for American's first! They didn't fight the battles and sign treaties like we did. All the other states need to follow Arizona and rid these criminals.
42600632Peeps said on Wednesday, May 5 at 11:03 AM
If a group of self identified Huichol Indians asked a native community for support as an act of solidarity, Im sure no one would have a problem with that. That's how real Indian to Indian interaction is done in a respectful way. Mexicans are a different story. They couldnt care less about the Indians here or the country they are fleeing. To be honest, these Mexicans ar not Mayans from the Zapatista Army coming north to support Native peoples. They are Indian hating Mexicans who want to become Americans and get rich and live off stolen land and resources just like they did in Mexico.
42592422IZ said on Wednesday, May 5 at 10:51 AM
Mexican is not Native. Sure you may have indigenous ancestry but you don't hold to the old ways. You identify with your colonizing European ancestors, hence your names, hence the way you track your lineage, denying Native or African ancestry. I spent time in Central America and talked to people here in the States. Not too many are proud of having indigenous or African ancestry. Some few are, but turn on univision and let's see who's on there.
42591584TomS....to "Chicano"...therin lies the said on Wednesday, May 5 at 9:33 AM
problem. THe issue is about illegal migration. UR making this a RACIAL issue. Most people on these boards have figured that OUT. UR ideology and ur cohorts are false and untrue. If this were about HUman rights, then why are American sponsors of racism not picketing outside Mexican Consulate or AGAINST MEXICAN GOVT sponsored terror against their immigrants. Amenesty Internation is the only organization that has posted report. The issue of anti-illegal migration is purely POLITICAL for national exposure, bigname celebs to advertise their names, and for national voter registeration drives.
42585727native said on Wednesday, May 5 at 9:30 AM
I SUPPORT 1070 ALL THE WAY,AND EVERY ONE ELSE SHOULD.THESE MISSUSERS OF VERBAL DEFINITIONS,PAWN THEM SELVES OFF AS INDIGENOUS.THEY ARE NOT TRIBAL INDIGENOUS.YES THERE ARE SOME AMONGST THEM WHO FLED MIXED AND EUROPEAN BLOOD TO A SAFER SANCTUARY.FORCED TO SEEK OUT OTHER INDIGENOUS TRIBES IN THE NORTH FOR SUPPORT.WOUND UP LIVING WITH THESE PARALLEL SCHEMERS,WHO BY USAGE CREATE A PROBLEM, THE ABUSE OF THE TERM INDIGENOUS.BUT ALL WHO COME HERE ARE OF QUESTIONAL.THEIR REASON FOR BEING HERE IS SUSPICIOUS,THEY CORRUPT,THEIR WITHOUT LEGAL DOCUMENTS,THEY PROCURE ILLEGAL DOCUMENTS,THEY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES,THEY SMUGGLED OTHERS ACROSS THE BORDER FOR PROFIT,THEY USE THEM INSOME LOCATIONS AS INDIGENT LABOR,THEY ARE USED AS DRUG SMUGGLERS,THEY ARE INTO PROSTITUTION,THEIR GANGS PLAGUED THE RESERVATIONS,AND TOWNS AND CITIES IN REGIONS.THEY ARE AN INSULT,A BAD NAME FOR THE INDIGENOUS TRIBES BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE BORDER.THE TRIBES SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN ENFORCEMENT AGAINST THEM.
42585522Pieces said on Wednesday, May 5 at 8:54 AM
To Chicano-Mexicans are not indians or else they would identify as a specific native from Mexico. African Americans have indian blood but they chose to identify as African American. In the same way, some Mexicans have some native blood but it's not something they embrace or are proud of. When these Mexicans come here, they don't do anything to help the natives here. Go watch those marches and you will see a bunch of brown people waving flags and chanting USA. They might as well be rednecks for all the good they do any real natives here who fought for their homelands and are still doing so.
42582777WAMP1MASHPEE said on Wednesday, May 5 at 8:09 AM
AGAIN ONE OF THE BEST ARTICLES ABOUT THIS NEW LAW I HAVE READ IN A LONG TIME MANY DIFFERENT OPIONS THATS WHAT THIS NEWS PAPER IS ABOUT OUR FREEDOM AS NATIVE AMERICANS TO EXSPRESS OUR VIEWS WITH OUT THE CRITISIM OF THE PILGRIMS AND NOW THE ILLEGALS YES I AGREE I CAN PROVE WHO I AM AND IF THEY CAN'T OH WELL THEY DON'T BELONG HERE SUCKING US DRY OF ALL OUR RESOURCES I SAY GET LEGAL AND PAY TAXES OR GO BACK DON'T STRAINN MY LAND WITH ALL THE FREE STUFF YOU GET I HAVE TO WORK FOR WHAT I GET AND LETS FACE IT I LLEGALS GET IT HANDED TO THEMM BECAUSE THEY ARE POOR SO ARE WE BUT WE ARE TOLD WE HAVE TO WORK
42579814TONAZ said on Wednesday, May 5 at 5:00 AM
John Lewis is an idiot. The Tohono O'odham Nation hasn't done anything to stop the flow of drugs in this country or the reservation. Tribal members help the illegals by setting out water stations for them. Where is the tribal government? Drive from Sells to Tucson and stop at the border patrol checkpoint. W here is your outrage at having to stop and say you are an American citizen. Show your ID's, it's not that hard.
42574724Pakal Hatuey said on Wednesday, May 5 at 2:47 AM
For the record: Latinos and Hispanics are the white ILLEGAL ALLEINS of the Western Hemisphere, who are GUILTY of initiating GENOCIDE on the entire Indigenous population of the Western Hemisphere. Mexicans, Salvadorians, etc, are today in their majority Indigenous people who have survived a genocide that they themselves are not aware has happened. This genocide was and is being experienced by ALL Indigenous people of the Western Hemisphere. Mexicans, “Salvadorians”, Guatemalans, etc. are not Hispanics or Latinos, they are survivors of a genocide that has and is being fatally experienced by ALL Indigenous people of the Western Hemisphere.
42572917Bear said on Wednesday, May 5 at 2:23 AM
(Day labors who are they) Are they Native American or Citizens of the USA? If they are not then they have a problem. Every one screaming about rights. Well where do we get our rights,can we go into Mexico and get jobs and health care without being citizens. NO so why come here thinking you can get it here. I am a citizen and i don`t fear this law. You that do not have the correct paper work you should not fear either. You can just go back to your home country. that way you will not be subject to this LAW. Why is it all the thiefs come to this country you come to steal Jobs-Health Care-Citizenship. you don`t pay into SSI but you come to collect something you have not worked for as Legal citizens.
42572454SB 1070 all the way! said on Wednesday, May 5 at 1:49 AM
To Chicano, Mexicans are native to their own country. They are not as native as legitimate U.S. North American tribes, maybe in Mexico, but not here. You use "indigenous" to be synonymous with U.S. North American Tribes, and that is wrong. All it does is confuse other races in the Unites States to think that legitimate U.S. North American tribes back your "indigenous" cause, and quite frankly we dont. You walk in our shadows. The United States of America is telling you what to do, on their own property...that is who they are to tell you what to do. This country is made up of numerous races, and you're trying to confuse them with the term "indigenous" to make them think you sit alongside in equal rank to the other legitimate U.S. Tribes. You can perceive it as an attack, because I perceive your being wishy washy about who you are and trying to steal the identity of legitimate U.S. Tribes as an attack. You are not our ally. SB1070 is endorsed by Heaven itself!!
42571799Chicano said on Wednesday, May 5 at 1:33 AM
Yes, there was turmoil between Mexican armed forces and other Native tribal nations, but was there not always turmoil between native nations? The Mexican has been treated like a dog from day 1 by the US and why? Because we are white? NO!! Because our factions our culture is that of an indigenous people that have had to be forced to assimilation yet survived. The white man despises the Mexican because in him/her he sees the people they thought they had relegated to barrios and reservations growing
42571477Chicano said on Wednesday, May 5 at 1:31 AM
I open this page in hopes that there would be a good discussion on this topic. What I mostly find is disgusting attacks upon Mexicans whom are just as native as any one of you. The Mexican by definition is an indigenous person, and when Mexicans and other Central Americans move north it is within our own continent, why should we let a white colonizer tell us what to do? Besides these people move because the very same European power that stole your country and mine because yes I am Chicano and have long roots here, keeps their governments as puppets, exploiting and stealing and having no human feeling, much less for poor brown/red folks. I cant believe how you all say how proud you are of being Native, yet attack the only other people that could be your NATURAL ally in your and our fight for true sovereignty and self determination. The Mexican and obviously the Chicano are Native as well! SB1070 obviously a racist law!!
42571407Fair and Equal in an Ideal World? said on Wednesday, May 5 at 12:40 AM
If you are brown, better hope that there are not any total red neck law enforcement and prosecutor types that have no problem losing a "Real US Indian" once in a while in a bunch of deportees; better imagine your relatives stuck in a Mexican jail with no rights or recourse, that is, if you and your family look like dark skinned Indians. It would seem they also need to equally be check pointing Middle East looking folks and might as well add to that anyone who looks North Korean as well. Be assured, the white german prisoners in Bismarck Interment camp were treated with great preference over that of Japanese Americans; arbitrarily and unfairly; and Japanese Americans were treated with extreme bias. A member of a tribe was arrested and rounded up with Japanese Americans and sent to Montana; the family had no idea where this family member was and the authorities would not, did not, did not care, to cooperate and did not care about the rights of an Indians misplaced among the Japanese.
42570234native said on Wednesday, May 5 at 12:08 AM
what about the tribes south of the border,they suffered,did these mexicans show an interest in their welfare?what the corrupt government down there did is ignore them for over 500 years.they took their lands,they forced a culture on them,they raped their women,they forced assimulated them,they took their children away,and forced them to work for them,they forced their culture upon them,and their religion,they humiliated them,they destroyed temples and desecrated their sacred lands.now they are beset with problems,drug lords prey on them,gangs prey on them,the federal government preys on them in that might be,corrupt officials prey on them.after 500 years of foreign occupation,the europeans,mixed blood,and others receive better treatment,and are administering and ruling over them,today after 500 years these indigenous tribes are impoverished,hungry,diseased,illiterate.lacking decent housing and medical care.to the tribes north of them does sound familiar?
42569144mix blood said on Tuesday, May 4 at 11:57 PM
Wouldn't it be nice if Native Peoples (in the U.S.) had REAL soverign nations? Then each nation could make it's own laws about immigration (or not). And enforce those laws (or not). But being dependant on the dominant white invader culture has once again become a huge problem with ndns having little local recourse... but that's another war..right?
42568749Bash said on Tuesday, May 4 at 9:57 PM
The Mexicans that come over here are just as clueless about Indians as any other immigrant group. I take that back; they are worse because they hate the Indians in their own country and they bring that same attitude with them over here. Yeah, that's just what we need, 11 million more people who hate Indians.
42562839NightHawk said on Tuesday, May 4 at 8:44 PM
It takes more than saying they have a drop of blood, and can beat a drum to make someone one of us. Then they were never from here in the first place. Their people were from where they came from so let them return there, and make life better for their own there. Tired of the fakes, wannabes and plastic Indians making claims everytime they need or want something. Esp.. If they can profit from it. You can find your Aztlan on a sign post at the bottom of Mexico. Take your drums with you.
42559494Who would claim to be... said on Tuesday, May 4 at 8:42 PM
a navajo if they weren't? These posts are getting bery crazy! The topic is illegals=it took me many years of straightening up to do the right thing-wild res Lakota-I have found doing the right thing [GENEROSITY; WISDOM; BRAVERY; FORTITUDE] really is the best path! I try to live by Lakota virtues with a near blind eye to mainstream life and this illegal issue is bad news! They run us down for rights/svcs my ancestors gave blood for in treaty but now these latinos use up the scant resources that fall off of uncle sam's table! Historically, SW tribes-like navajo-were docile which made wholesale invasion conducive but now at least shed some passivity to oppose this law and stand with AZ as they try to compel US to enforce its own law(s)!
42559422NightHawk said on Tuesday, May 4 at 8:21 PM
I don't know who you been talking to, but it's not true. Illegals leave over a ton of trash a day on our reservations, destroy everything they see they can't steal. Then there are the drug runners. If you didn't know it the 14 border reservations don't get any State or Federal funds to deal with illegals or drug runners. Everything comes from us, and in AZ that means removing vehicles and bodies as well. As far as the the State law it's the same as the Federal law. They can not stop anyone unless it's for a legal reason, and Fed. law says if they have a Green Card/papers they have to carry them at all time. Plus show them when asked by law enforcement. There is no racial profiling in this against anyone or group, and I'm as dark or darker in shade of skin than most. (N'dee) F.B.I. Born and raised on the reservation there in Arizona.
42558589Randy said on Tuesday, May 4 at 6:50 PM
In 2006 I moved into a apartment complex. There where no Hispanics. 2 months later a apartment became vacant. A 2 bedroom apartment. a week later 9 non english speaking people moved into that apt...along with 3 junk vehicles. A year later my girlfrined and I were the only english speaking people there. My girlfriend was almost raped twice, I was attacked with a hammer and had my arm broke. All the while the Portland OR city police did nothing. I was ready to kill. I had to move. I am American Indian. Next time I will kill. For thousands of years there was no illegal immigration problem...now there is? I say let the Comanche and Apache have at em again like they did for millenia.
42554474Illegal is Illegal said on Tuesday, May 4 at 6:04 PM
After reading the comments on this board, and the obvious inclination of the author, there is a vocal minority opposed to the legislation. I wonder how many have even read it, or the amendments? This pan-Native stuff is dangerous to maintaining individual sovereign rights of first nations. There is no Aztlan, that was the first wave of illegal immigration first nations once fought against. Here we are with an attempt to giv amensty to 11,000,000 more illegals. When does it end? When do we stop allowing these attacks on our sovereignty? The land has too many people already but we seem to allow anyone in these days without a care for the next generation.
42552094Real Warrior said on Tuesday, May 4 at 5:04 PM
The safety of our people, the protection of our children, the defense of our elders. We have been fighting against genocide, theft of sacredlands, desecration of our cultures. The mexican/European/Spanish/colonialist/oppressor of native peoples. If they support native people, for instance, Return the Native lands of the O'odham back to them, that being the Entirety of the state of sonora. Pay repriations, restitutions for the last 500 years of occupation. When the human rights and recognition of My people are returned, I will gladly march in the streets in support of the colonialist/mexicans. But there is a blank in the history of mexicnas and how they have treated our Native peoples going back to 1824 and 1492. Enough of the "reconqueista" lies and attempt to hijack the Native struggles. Real eyes realize real lies, amigos. Native Power.
42548504THANK YOU said on Tuesday, May 4 at 4:51 PM
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42547514RE: LatinaBarbieDoll said on Tuesday, May 4 at 4:47 PM
on youtube, OH BOY, she's possibly getting into a slander/libel zone with her newest statements like using the word 'rape', and she's not stopping over there! She really has some grudge against Native Americans bad!
42547202LatinBabieDoll said on Tuesday, May 4 at 4:37 PM
wrote a smear campaign against Native American Elders on youtube @ 'Students Arrested at AZ. State Capitol opposing SB 1070. She just keeps the smearing of Native Americans coming, and coming and coming.....
42546557Endorse the AZ Bill said on Tuesday, May 4 at 4:26 PM
The immigration problem is not a U.S. Tribal problem. Those immigrants from South/Central America & MEXICO are from those locations. And if their governments wont do anything, how is it MY problem? I'm responsible for my family, thats it. Unfortunately, the taxes I pay go to support illegal immigrants, I disagree with that...but thats all the money and support you will get from me. I am with the UN in not supporting or recognizing your so-called INDIGENOUS rights, because it carries all the logic of a house fly!
42545714Wilbur Nelson said on Tuesday, May 4 at 4:19 PM
This "immigration problem" is has been and will continue to be a United Nation issue and US Tribal problem due to the fact that the majority of these "aliens" are decendents of Mexico/Cnteral and South American indenginous Native American population whose governments do not and will not provided them a land base and government social services (ie,food stamps etc.)and jobs. The majority of these immigrants have lost thier language and tribal identity have been stamped out by the so called "Conquistadors"! The majority can prove thier tribalism thus as US Native Americans, we must relaize this truth and support our brethren in this fight against the US and the Canadian governments who to this day have NOT and WILL NOT recognize the UN supported Indigenous Rights to land and human rights of/for Native Americans in these countries! Tribes in these two countries need to get on board with the UN and support this document as a means of the restoration of our God given rights for tribalism.
42545114Badfinger is right! said on Tuesday, May 4 at 3:59 PM
Here Here!!! Badfinger is right! And what you people are doing, in effect, is telling the U.S. American Indian tribes that we are NOT illegitimate. Dont make me change my occupation and become an activist for true U.S. American Indian Tribes. You all ran south when the crap hit the fan and Navajos (and other tribes) were being shot and massacred, killed and taken for a long walk. Now that the shooting is done and the TRUE U.S. American indians are no longer being shot in the back or killed for being indian, and basically took a stand and were courageous and braved it out...you all come up here with your INDIGENOUS argument.
42543689Why were you sent to Jail? said on Tuesday, May 4 at 3:45 PM
TO: 11:09 AM RezDog wrote Cops dont arbitrarily throw you in jail. Were you beligerant? I've been pulled over, and even though I disagreed with the CHP (of any race) or local city PD (of any race), I talk to them with respect and like they are human becuase I know that their everyday clients are mostly scum of the earth a-holes that give them a hard time. Being a police officer is a stressful job and they dont need some belligerant 1/2 & 1/2 giving them lip, if thats what happened. I've been pulled over and no one has arbitrarily sent me to a cell, there has to be more to your story then what you are saying. Outstanding warrant? Unpaid parking tickets? Not paying child support? I'm not saying these apply to you, they are being listed as legitimate excuses...so why were you really sent to jail?
42542882Badfinger said on Tuesday, May 4 at 3:42 PM
The ndns from Mexico should be free to come over BUT those coming over aren't ndns. They are MEXICANS who hate the ndns in their own country. If they hate the NDNS in their own country, I have no sympathy for them because they have no connection to us ndns here. We need to be clear about this-MEXICANS ARE NOT NDNS. It's the Chicanos in the U.S who are making the argument that MEXICANS are NDNS. The Mexicans themselves consider it an insult to be called an NDN.
42542627We Navajos fought... said on Tuesday, May 4 at 3:38 PM
you southern raiders a.k.a. Mexican tribes, who always came up to steal our women and our food. And now you want to keep with these "migrating" ways. Thumbs down. No. Nada. uh-uh. Declined. Zip. Zilch. Aint happenin' (all over again!!!)
42542302Going back in time said on Tuesday, May 4 at 3:31 PM
Using the argument that Mexico Indians used to cross up here all the time, and go back when they wanted to way before borders were put into place is not a valid argument. You cant just pick and choose what you want to have implemented. Without the ARizona bill, it is like it was 500 years ago, only now, people are saying to stop it becuase open borders are not safe...especially 911. You've got the sex traders moving young girls all over the place. Young girls are being kidnapped and being taken to mexico...and you're advocating this??!! I dont condone that at all. And if securing borders protects US citizens and reduces human trading, I'm for all it!
42541759Mary Joly said on Tuesday, May 4 at 3:23 PM
"SO are suppose to sit tight and not move freely across the USA?" The answer is yes and yes. Most of these people claiming to be "INDIGENOUS" came from the mountains of MEXICO...where?..MEXICO...so you snuck here are trying to legitimize yourself by claming whatever, if your origin is Mexico, and you're indigenous to Mexico...then yeah sit tight. You guys came to late to the party. All the legitimate U.S. tribes that were already here, were alotted our reservations. Why weren't you? Because your country is Mexico, you are Mexican. You're just trying to use a BROAD term with BROAD strokes and BROAD implications to force and manuever your way into getting what you want. You are asking for freedoms and ANARCHY behavior that myself and all other American citizens do not have. Get over it or get out.
42541157Indigenous said on Tuesday, May 4 at 3:15 PM
For those of you wanting to use the word "indegenous", its just a sneaky way to jusify who you are. All peoples of the world are indegenous.
42540589Anonymous said on Tuesday, May 4 at 3:12 PM
The Inter Tribal Council of Arizona website is a big name and people shouldnt THINK that they speak for other U.S. TRIBES like the Navajo, Apache, Pueblo, Sioux...of which they are not a part of. And for those of you saying the Navajos are your people too, thats dangerous rhetori. Talk about racism and fear about the Arizona bill! You're doing the same thing by diminishing who and what the Din'e are by making such claims. If you want to be for this bill, you be for it. But lets make it very very crystal clear...this INTER-tribal group is NOT comprised of truer norther american indians, and if you want to be for it, be for it, but dont be saying you are the Navajo or Din'e because your'e not!! We have common sense, aaaayy. Speak for yourselves!!
42540379IZ said on Tuesday, May 4 at 2:56 PM
what if you got a finger cut off and you only got 4?
42539097dan said on Tuesday, May 4 at 2:51 PM
With this law in effect. If I were the Native Tribes of America I would be looking into Hi-Tech Tribal Identification cards. Whats gonna happen if you don't?
42538724Orlandogrl said on Tuesday, May 4 at 2:00 PM
If people are here legally they have nothing to our nation and California in heading for bankruptcy. We no longer need to support people who want a "free ride". If you work and pay your way "welcome" if not "see ya". For me personally it is not the Mexican illegals that bother me as much as the terrorists that are lurking in our country.
42534947TON said on Tuesday, May 4 at 1:09 PM
I support this law. out here on the border we are constantly under assault by mexican cartels, illegal/dope smugglers, thefts, vandalism. We support the efforts of law enforcement. Any dope brought across is now headed to your REZ up north. Poison that the mexican is giving to your children and grandchildren, and ours too. Support this law, support our beloloved state of Arizona. Hau"UH!!!
42531004The BIG NATIVE said on Tuesday, May 4 at 12:59 PM
I wonder how many of these liberals that are against the law have ever had to walk with their daughter or wife by a group of illegal alien day laborers. I realize some are good hardworking people but there is also a fraction that are criminals. the only way to sort them out is by registering them.
42530254Tohono O'odham 2010 said on Tuesday, May 4 at 12:28 PM
has anyone even read sb 1070 yet?! Or are we just going to listen to racists and wannabes tell us what they heard from a illegal immigrant con-artist??? It does not discriminate against Native People, My tribal I.D. is more that enough to satisfy the law. I will PROUDLY show my i.d. if it meant that an illegal was arrested here in my homeland of Arizona. enough with the wah-wah-wah already! follow the law illegals.
42527972NativeLife said on Tuesday, May 4 at 12:21 PM
i think its ironic that twopac, a native impersonator, got the first comment. Mexicans are the first European colonialists on native soil begining in 1492. They have continued a policy of genocide that continues even in this present day. I laugh whenever I hear about the mexican "reconquiesta".Atzlaners who contiue the colonialplan from their Europeoan forefathers. basta! Native Power Forever.
42527339old man woolenshirt said on Tuesday, May 4 at 12:19 PM
From my own personal experience and what I've seen and heard from relatives in Phoenix. I feel something has to be done soon ,somehow to curb this illegal problems. If you ever visit Walmart or Kmart in Phoenix on a weekend you would think you are in Mexico.And if you accidently drive down the wrong road in south Phoenix you can be by threaten,shot or beaten,(Yes,I was threaten and warned I was on someones road), This is the heart of the issue! Somehow 'WE American Indians need to understand that this is OUR problems too and help resolve this instead of thinking this is the white people problems and they brought it on themselves.Our CONSTANT FEAR is this will happen to us too. I have Mexicans friends and inlaws .Once this problems is under control the state will loosen-up. Always has.
42527162Arizona has 22 NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES said on Tuesday, May 4 at 12:16 PM
If your rez is near a border or has a casino then you are a target for the Mexican drug cartels. DIANA CUEZTPALIIN WAKE UP! DRUGS ARE BEING IMPORTED FROM MEXICO EVERYDAY, THEY HAVE THIS SYSTEM DOWN. Coyotes import or smuggle Humans into this country everyday, and when they get caught, instead of scattering Like Apache's did, these Mexicans run in line and get caught all together! People are being murdered on reservations for being Snitches by the Mules on the rez. It has been common knowledge that there are Mexican men who do start a family with Tribal Women and BOOM! Theres MI FAMILIA! I agree with Rez Dog, my sister was 20 feet away from being deported and put on a Border patrol bus just for looking Mexican. Racial Profiling happens all the time here in Arizona. Navajo women were NOT the only ones being stolen and sold, Apache, Yaqui, Pima, Papago, Zuni, Yuman, etc. Again there are 22 TRIBAL LEADERS IN ARIZONA who are not being asked for their views on this SB 1070. WHY?!
42526992Cora said on Tuesday, May 4 at 12:09 PM
Many of the "illegal" people are in fact Native Americans displaced by (1) U.S. economic policies and (2) Mexican government terror with the support of U.S. economic policies.
42526322Deb said on Tuesday, May 4 at 11:54 AM
If you are an LEGAL American citizen then there is nothing to worry about. If you are an ILLEGAL citizen then pack your bags. I am sick of paying for others that provide nothing tomy country except be a financial burden that I have to care for. The USA is in bad shape and the time has come to clean up this mess that the government has let happen. I will always support the Native Americans as I do now,,,that will never change.
42525242RezDog said on Tuesday, May 4 at 11:09 AM
Man I am really screwed. I am 1/2 Deneh and 1/2 Nakai. Because I am not full blood, I am discriminated on the NN, and now because I have Nakai blood running through my veins, I need to be viligent in AZ. I was once arrested in CA for DWI (Driving While Indian) and held for 8 hours for 647(f) drunk in public. I am a non-drinker and raised hell with the cops. They actually put me in a cell with illegals and on a bus deported to Mexico even though I am an enrolled member of the NN and an American citizen. To all my brothers and sisters that are NDN out there. If it happened to me it can happen to you. You might find yourself on a bus to Mexico under this assinine law.
42521779oliver clozof said on Tuesday, May 4 at 11:05 AM
some people are quick to demonize "those mexicans" from "down there". way to go! all the struggles to accept, heal, and move on from past injustices and prejudices are for nothing. your parents and grandparents were demonized for being scourges on the "bountiful land" that europeans desired, and they were kicked aside because they were considered less deserving of basic human rights (safety, health care, access to clean water and food supplies, etc.) and in a shocking twist, indigenous people all across north america were BLAMED FOR THE PROBLEMS OF PROGRESS. SOUND FAMILIAR? i guess those that forget the past really are doomed to repeat it. some of you all need to wake up and stop blaming THOSE navajos or THOSE paiutes or THOSE blacks or THOSE vietnamese or THOSE ________ for problems that we all share and we won't solve unless we solve them TOGETHER. it's a sad day when we as indigenous people treat others like they're less deserving of basic human rights that we were once denied...
42521564Support what AZ needs to do for its citizens both tribal and non-tribal said on Tuesday, May 4 at 10:18 AM
People need to move away from the issue of "race" and look at the problem in detail. Illegal immigrants are breaking the law. Of course they should be treated with respect, but they are not going about attaining US citizen in a proper way. As a Native person from AZ, I do not mind being asked for identification. Racial profiling exists already, we are already affected by it so it is nothing new to us. I don't care if I have to show my driver's license in order to protect our youth from the bad choices some illegals choose to come to the US with - drugs, sexist views (ask any female who walks down the street what they illegal men do -STARE until their eyes run out). We are simply fighting these people for resources. In NM the urban Indian clinic only operates at full cost because they also treat "indigent" patients. I support this law because there is no other choice and I need to protect my family.
42517559Paiute Woman said on Tuesday, May 4 at 10:09 AM
Our southern brothers and sisters were here before their were borders. The are indigenous to this Turtle Island, South America to North America. We as Nations need to protect all life as we know it, animals, birds, insects, fish, plant life. We are the care takers of mother earth. Let us embrace what is here. Let our southern people be introduced to their culture ways, before the indoctrination of the European ways. The Native of AZ will be stopped and asked for ID, why do we need to produce enrollment cards. Native Children should be able to wait until they are 21 to decide where, what tribe they want to enroll. It is their choice... I do not want my child stopped, profiled. They do not carry their birth certificate. I live in Calif and I see Brown People pulled over by CHP's all the time. This law is racist.
42516782wisconsinanshinabe said on Tuesday, May 4 at 9:57 AM
Do we remember what happened on the Wind River Reservation? The Sinolan Drug Cartel out of Mexico inflitrated this community. Look what happened. These scum knew the problems with addiction on the REZ. They targeted this, and corrupted the community. They divided and conquered this community. Remember that!
42515867Tell the Truth & Shame the Devil said on Tuesday, May 4 at 9:18 AM
Round them up, charge them, then deport them! These illegal aliens are a drag on our economy and drain from the social programs. They breed like roaches and work the system to their advantage. I don't care is your baby is born in the USA Deport the illegal mama and illegal daddy and place baby in foster care. We have enough scummy criminals running a wild in the USA. Another solution: BUST, FINE and JAIL the employers that hire these illegals. It has NOTHING to do with race…it has EVERYTHING to do with obeying the law!
42513057Taino Arawak said on Tuesday, May 4 at 8:48 AM
Tau, Greetings; The AZ is wrong because: it does NOTHING to stop illegal entry at the border (where are the increased fences or additional barriers/); BUT what the law WILL do is harass and intimidate US CITIZENS. The majority of Hispanics in AZ are US citizens; there is absolutely no way for this law to only stop/inconvenience illegals. AZ is about to become a police state, where racial profiling is accepted, encouraged and supported by the majority of the citizens (Anglos) because it only affects a minority. This had tried before: it was called Nazi Germany. Bo matum!
42511009TomS said on Tuesday, May 4 at 8:27 AM
NativeGUns_though close to half of Navajo population live of REZ starting with Greater Phx. Only be getting away from REZ, is a Navajo NDN able to witness the one-sided, bias news being fed to a naive NDN public. The notion of 'Human Rights" in this Demo-led specticle is at best hypcritical, if not deceiving. At the expense of dismantling American/Native rights for the future, Barrack OBama is setting the American Govt for a Federal Meltdown (much like what RonRegan started with the Finanancial sector). Everything from tthis point on part of Domestic policies is being done with one thing getting votes/getting draw to stay in Democractic/REpublic Office. Even if policy is against the wishes of elected constiuents.
42509677Jimbo said on Tuesday, May 4 at 8:22 AM
Okay, actually all citizens in Arizona are illegal cause native Americans didn't invite anyone of them to come. So please, all white Az citizens, please leave the state immediately.
42509384Deb said on Tuesday, May 4 at 6:28 AM
I completely support the AZ law and feel that every state should do the same. I respect the native American and do not feel that this law will change anything for any of you as you are legal American Citizens!!!! Way to go AZ!
42504677Native Guns said on Tuesday, May 4 at 1:30 AM
The individual Liberties and Constitutional Rights does affect half of the Native population who do reside on "the Rez". Your only concerned with "Rez" issues rather than the path of which political spectre will favor the White majority than the non-Whites.
42499979Native Guns said on Tuesday, May 4 at 1:27 AM
TomS, I don't support "illegal" immigration. I never had & certainly never will. But because you live on the Navajo "Rez", the pro-White interests laws doesn't really affect you(only NDN policies for that matter concerning "the Rez"),....(continue)...
42499914TomS said on Tuesday, May 4 at 12:57 AM
Native Guns...which is why Hispanics are so on board w/use of the political tool of "RACISM". Your correct this is NOT about illegal immigration. The racist groups (proponents of human rights) are only intent on getting national exposure from CNN, NBC, newpapers. The entire OBAMA administration is in support of this political US State-sponsored Terror tool of racism. In my judgment as a Dineh supporter to the SB 1070, I do not want 1-3 Million mexicans and newly ordained 'citizens' in 2011 to have a considerable water draw of Navajo water rights to Colorado river. When Hispanic Dems as political power in SW demand water for greater Phx valley, will THEY ensure 'human rights' to the Navajo Nation. I do believe they will. All the more to keep illegals out and NO TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION REFORM IN 2011-2012!
42499242Native Guns said on Tuesday, May 4 at 12:42 AM
And when I meant that history will repeat itself. We saw how the boycott of AZ when the backwarded state refused to adopt the MLK holiday. Same with Ceasar Chavez. This one is tantamount as opposed to the last 2 boycotts. Its a dreadful reality 4 those in the fringe.
42498872'native guns' 'lunatic fringe?' said on Tuesday, May 4 at 12:21 AM
Ho hum to this post-who cares if a racist law is pointed at hispanics-better them than ____! I still don't know what is wrong with proving who you are upon request??? How is that untoward in a civilized society, native guns? I'm not in bed with other minorites, defintely not homosexuals and not even other Natives [if these SW tribes could've mounted a feeble attack when they had the hispanics outnumbered 300 to 1, this may not even be an issue now but...go home illegals-don't let the door hit you where the Almighty split you!
42498299Another AZ Apache said on Tuesday, May 4 at 12:20 AM
I am an Apache from Arizona, and I don't support this law. This law is unjust. Apache Warrior doesn't represent all Apaches! Everything Creator created is equal in his/her eyes. That is the real Apache teaching; and its time for Apache Warrior to put his headband away and face reality.
42498259Native Guns said on Tuesday, May 4 at 12:10 AM
Some of you idiots need to open your eyes and stop reading propagenda of the lunatic fringe. The racist law is clearly to target Hispanic(not just illegals) through the methods of attrition. That limits Liberties and Civil Rights of non-White Americans.
42498042Native Guns said on Tuesday, May 4 at 12:08 AM
What the average dimwitted Native in AZ(or elsewhere) for that matter, is that this racist law(SB1070) was designed by Kris KKKobach/neo-Nazi associator Russell Pearce. The Law does reek of racist implementation aimed at minorities(primarily Hispanics).
42497937Left-wing whack jobs!" said on Monday, May 3 at 11:08 PM
News reports say whole neighborhoods in AZ are moving-back to Mexico? No to CO or CA...to be someone else's problem! How can Americans turn a blind eye to how taxing illegals are on the already overburden resources meant for Americans? profiling is a shabby excuse at best. This isn't the gestapo folks-no not yet! Why would anyone who is legit be worried about being asked to prove citizenship? This is just another smokescreen by the diabolical powers that be: fed reserve, to slide another scam by us! Watch your 6!I agree: you illegals go home and take your sympathizers with you-the sooner the better!I am a 4/4 res skin! Way to go AZ!
42495174angel said on Monday, May 3 at 11:03 PM
To the Apache Warrior, I'm indigenous person from south Mexico, and I can tell you that the mexicans that u referred to are white people who killed indigenous in mexico... white people want us to be divided the words that u say sounds just like the words they use...
42494984TomS said on Monday, May 3 at 10:00 PM
The FLIP SIDE TO ALLOWING ILLEGAL MIGRATION is this: To the NDN activist, instead of abiding to Sovereign NDN or Dineh laws against alcohol, or adhering 2 Dineh Grazing Rights Laws, would NDN activists forgo the Law of the Dinehland due to her right to drink alcohol or grant compassion to allow other Dinehs to live on already partioned grazing lands? How about indifference 2 the common but seemingly practice of PROFILING by Dineh (as brown) against other Dineh (as brown) during traffic stops-alcohol, shopping in stores, eating in restaraunts or the sudden hush when a non-NDN (white) enters a room full of brown NDNs. This is why I dont support notion of 'human rights' especially when it impedes on rights of US-Native American-Dineh legitimate citizens and the Sovereignty of a recognized US country. The lunacy of the far-left agenda in this Illegal Immigration Protest against SB 1070 is hypocritical at best, deceiving and evil at worst.
42491784To 'diana cue..' said on Monday, May 3 at 9:55 PM
One of the biggest drug peddlers in Lakota country is a 1/2 mexican who has been a crime wave of his/there own now. They brought their dozen siblings there now there is probably 100s of them-few of them are any good! They've kept their community in turmoil since the 60s ..any ring kissing of the latino agenda needs to be slapped down before they take over-they propigate by design to clog up already slim health resources/social svcs in Lakota/ indian country! Arizona is standing up and saying enough is enough and YES what's wrong with being stopped and having to prove your legal standing anyway? This bill accepts tribal IDs as verifiable proof. It will keep innocent and vulnerable people safe! So many are just dirt farmers trying to eeck out a pinto bean or lettuce for dinner for their families-what's wrong with that? ALL LATINO ILLEGALS ADIOS AND MAY HE WHO RULES OVER US ALL HAVE MERCY ON YOU [AND AZ!]. Thanks ICT
42491489TomS said on Monday, May 3 at 9:30 PM
As citizen of the US, I support AZGov and SB 1070. The charge of "Human rits" ISNT CREDIBLE. If NDN activist were true 2 his demand 4 human rights and compassion, they wouldnt censure any opinions in legitimate opposition. NDN activist would treat white people, individualism/ competition, US foreign policy with the SAME MORAL INDIFFERENCE to illegal immigration and immigrant crimes of human and drug trafficking.
42490529Apache Warrior said on Monday, May 3 at 8:51 PM
As Apaches we fought the Mexicans and raided their communities. They hated the Apaches and other tribes. They often offered bounty for Apache sculps and murdered the Apaches in cold-blood. I have no sysmpathy for the "illegals." I support the Arizona Law.
42488854Elder said on Monday, May 3 at 8:12 PM
This is so wrong for our Native Americans to jump on this band wagon. Those crossing the border are illegal. Wake up Native people and stop being a mouth piece for Obama. This progressive movement is going to be the ruin of our people. All the young ones on the rez. want the drugs and gangs. BUT WE DON'T Racial profiling, my a--. Wake up. When has Obama been our friend? This article makes me sick. Don't be cattle in this parade. You look like fools.
42486949Diana Cueztpaliin-joe said on Monday, May 3 at 7:34 PM
This is un response to drugs from Mexico -You are pathetic and obviously a troll. Stop your nonsense and get yourself a guru group from Sedona to conduct a medicine taa'cheii for your insulting way. Meth is not an import drug. Mexicans do not come to reservations to shack up with the rez women and there are no such thing as cartels you sorry excuse for space! To walk in beauty..ye,the five finger concept is so beautiful..I honor you for bringing that forward! Unfortunately today many use the finger to point and to slap and to punch their others..this is what is happening to us at the level of government. The dominant culture likes to Divide and Conquer even in this day and at this age of beauty! It is a sad time in our Earth..we just pray.
42485299Drugs from Mexico said on Monday, May 3 at 7:04 PM
According to the US Dept of Justicese several drug gangs from Mexico send their dealers to Indian reservations so they blend in easier. They are told to find a girl to shack up with and begin to distribute their wares. Often times they sell marijuana and meth within the communities. Such activity has been documented as far north as in Lakota territory and within numerous communities on the Navajo Nation. Such a law like this is meant to stop what the feds haven't done much about except write. Thank goodness for SB 1070 and for Senator Pearce trying to protect what the federal governemtn has failed.
42484009are you prepared said on Monday, May 3 at 6:47 PM
This is just the beginning. Soon we'll all be having chips install under our skin for identification. New World Order and one government in the Americas. Are you prepared?
42483222WalksNBeauty said on Monday, May 3 at 6:04 PM
We can end this debate with one FACT...WE ARE ALL FIVE FINGERED...HUMAN BEINGS! The political or human persective is to intellectualize, the BEING is to know with your hearts, what is just and RIGHT!! In beauty may it be restored!!
42481092"most are cool but.." said on Monday, May 3 at 6:01 PM
No plausible argument can be made for allowing illegals to roam unabated in US! Don't be talked down or deceived by liberal-thinking thinkers! Many illegals want work but some want to rape, pillage and act bad often [just like scumbag banksters, huh?]! As fugitives who can expect them to follow other laws in a civilized society? I'm a full-blood, too & I echo the sentiment regarding how dinehs treat each other-especially their old...GO HOME NOW! Thank you Arizona for taking the lead with your law-no problems with it what so ever!
42480964Clogging up ER & social svcs! said on Monday, May 3 at 5:20 PM
I chuckle when I read the posts by 'dineh' I've worked on their lands and they so hubris-filled treating their old people as a coomodity to beused and disposed of properly..NA want a view of why this law should be enacted EVERYWHERE-go to Albq INDIAN Ctr or UNM's ER, etc-they're full of latinos milking the sparse resources we 'skins get anyway! I'm a full-blooded res dude from South Dakota and I travel all over the SW. I'm happy the BP has checkpoints and I've never had a problem at all! What's WRONG with being legal with proper ID? The border areas can tell you that illegals all over the place dying off en masse [i.e.'60 Minutes' story on border canal, etc..] or worse is rampant and needs to be curtailed. These very laws are already on the books-its just that the capitalist sysytem in place needs porous borders right now to further squeeze the life out of the US middle-class! WAY TO AZ YOU MAKE ME PROUD TO BE HERE!
42478657steve said on Monday, May 3 at 4:00 PM
Sheriff Joe for President! It does my heart good to see someone NOT afraid to do what is right, just because it may be politically incorrect! Steve Enrolled Umatilla
42473994Daryl Diabo said on Monday, May 3 at 3:46 PM
This is not something new for the Mohawks Of Akwesasne, we have an imaginary line that only white people can see that devides our homeland.We must daily produce "papers" to prove our right to be here. this will be coming to your country very soon.
42473107Diana Cuetzpaliin-joe said on Monday, May 3 at 2:54 PM
Nakai problem I am assuming you are one of these indigenous folks that has taken everything from the text books and made your views based on your limited understanding? I married into the Dine' and I can tell you that my husband whom is educated first in Dine' Ke way and secondly in the white man way would call youplain ignorant. There is a sad and phenomenal occurance in tribals people today...not all of them but unfortunately some have become poster childrento the dominant culturals way of bias and hate?1
42469647A "real" Indian said on Monday, May 3 at 2:31 PM
The white invader has now deem anyone with brown skin to not be an American. Brothers and sisters, if we don't stop the illegal immigration by the white invaders into our tribes' soon the white invader will be demanding to see your "papers" to prove membership in your own tribe or nation because the vast majority will be white men and white women in your tribes!
42468244Terry said on Monday, May 3 at 1:45 PM
Rob Capriccioso, I don't most American Indian are participant of such marches. I don't think sovereirgnty is non-issues here. Rather what is interesting is being pulled over and being asked of one's legal status, which is an ironic insult epecially when is an aboriginal of this country. Your opening of the article is a speculation regarding soverereignty, and it is alarming and a propaganda. American Indians should be elated for such law.
42465479M. Begay said on Monday, May 3 at 1:44 PM
Almost every Indigenous Nation within the colonial border of the US have traditional histories connected to migration. Tom S: You speak of honoring and respecting US and Dine' sovereignty but every treaty that the US has made with Indigenous Nations in the US has been broken by the US.
42465344IAM said on Monday, May 3 at 1:42 PM
SB1070 is a result of the tragic legacy of racism that continues to be widespread throughout Arizona. This is a human rights issue, not only because the law cannot be executed without racial profiling, it also exacerbates the suffering of migrants seeking a better life for their families, and promotes the agenda of those seeking to embolden their xenophobia and further militarize the US/Mexico border. Border militarization (troops, border wall, detention camps, etc) has resulted in desecration of burials and the splitting of Indigenous communities and other impacts. While drug trafficking is a very serious issue, many of the people who migrate seek a better life for their families and many of them are Indigenous. Migrants are not only from Mexico but other regions of South and Central America where conflict, natural disasters and US economic exploitation, and in many cases US supported political turmoil, has contributed to their migration.
42465222Marie Joly said on Monday, May 3 at 1:40 PM
SO what if you are homeless and don't own or rent an accomadation. Where do we go than. Pass the bill on to congress than we're not allowed to travel and post somewhere else in another state. SO are suppose to sit tight and not move freely across the United States of America.
42465142"Latinos for Obama?" said on Monday, May 3 at 12:54 PM
Hey guy worried about having a sticker in your car: If the sticker is advocating for a American election I don't think you've to worry, it's the guy with the sticker for a Mexican politician that should. While some Natives might also be inclined to say voting for Obama sounds fishy mostly it is just foolish...
42462017indigena unity said on Monday, May 3 at 12:47 PM
its true that navajo women were stolen. i ask that another view be made, which is this: nakai dine are part of our people, which is the people of what is now mexico and southwards. those are mexica indios. i think its time to consider these people become officially part of our people, complete with census number, american citizenship, etc. in times past navajo has always assisted other tribes in need of help, such as the pueblo after their rebellion. i ask everyone to consider this.
42461502complete said on Monday, May 3 at 10:51 AM
This article selectively quotes ndns who are against the law while ignoring the voice of those who have no problem with it. Why not interview someone who actually lives at T.O about what they think instead of natives from oklahoma or those az natives who don't live on the border and are not impacted. Sure, I can be against the bill from the comfort of my suburban home but I also don't have people trashing my home, stealing my car and shooting guns outside my doors.
42453852Mike George said on Monday, May 3 at 9:57 AM
This article is incomplete, it doesn't mention the issue of drugs and weapons being smuggled across the border. This is the heart of the issue! Resolve this and the state will loose all support for a lawn of this type.
42450517Nakai problem said on Monday, May 3 at 3:11 AM
Long before there wasa bilagaana problem the Nakai were known for stealing Dineh women for slaves. A Dineh woman went for hundreds of silver pesos for her weaving, children and men less. It is estimated that close to half the eastern Dineh that ended up going to Hweeldi ended up in Old Mexico as slaves. This is not an advocation for SB whatever just realization there exists many levels to this conversation that must be remembered. This is not an attempt to stereotype just trying to place some historical perspective on this issue. Yet again on the other side according to the New York Times 89% of the Tea Party is bilagaana and 1% African-American. It makes our future so bleak to see the tribalization of our home.
42439889Tom S said on Sunday, May 2 at 10:33 PM
Interesting how 'Human Rights' is being centerally focused (pressured even) over legitimate Sovereignty acknowledged by United Nation members_including the USA. Is the opposition really indeed ="human rights"= against the values, traditions of landowners, registered US citizens? My Dine upbringing espouses RESPECT and HONOR to traditions while recognized AGREEMENTs. These are the tenants of being DINE. Why then are 10-20 MILLION human being intent on NOT HONORING, NOT RESPECTING, NOR acknowledging the SOVEREIGNTY of US and sovereignty of Dine Nation! This political docudrama is NOT about "Human RIghts" rather a push to forcing opposition against the legitimacy of citizens of the US/Dine Nation. I do not speak for Dine, but my upbringing has instilled sense of entitlement to Dine lands. My ancestors fought and died so their descendents will flourish. 5 Mil Hispanics living in SW US canbe a draw on Dine waterrights to Colo river. Will Hispanic Politics ensure "human rits" to Dine?
42432454Darryl Babe Wilson said on Sunday, May 2 at 10:21 AM
Indian Country, greetings. I feel the damage of cultural turmoil moving ever in the turbulent winds emitting from seats of law and order in America. My study has led me to be cautious while witnessing Americans manipulate reality. In the first days of contact with the distorted intentions of invaders from Europe, the human act of being courteous to strangers should not constantly be spoken of as "The natives welcomed" those callous brutes because the word "welcome" continues thhrough American and European history in a distorted translation that emerged from the palsied reasoning of the invasion mentality, that the indigenous "gave" this land to the invading forces. This earth did not belong to anyone to give away, and it still dosen't. When the European says "X belongs to me," that means absolute owership and control. That reasoning is not prepared to accept that earth is a gift from many higher powers to the autochthonous beings to care for, respect, love and enjoy.
42403157Tupac Enrique Acosta said on Sunday, May 2 at 12:59 AM
Community Indictment Against the State of Arizona, Governor J. Brewer (et al) : Civil Rights - Human Rights - Indigenous Rights. From Selma to Phoenix, from Civil Rights to Human Rights and, the Rights of Mother Earth! May 1, 2010 Asamblea de los Pueblos, Phoenix, AZ : THE DECLARATION OF INTERDEPENDENCE
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