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Oct 30, 2009
Story Updated:
Nov 2, 2009
PALM SPRINGS, Calif. – The White House announcement that President Barack Obama and tribal leaders will meet in early November was greeted with elation at the National Congress of American Indians annual conference, but that happiness soon turned to disappointment for representatives of state-recognized tribes who learned they would be excluded from the historic event.
“The interests of the state tribes should be just as important as the interests of the federal tribes,” said the Rev. John Norwood, president of the Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape Tribal Nation.
“I don’t begrudge our federal brothers and sisters one iota. I know they deal with different issues in some respects and I think having an audience to deal with those types of issues is appropriate. But to be snubbed and not to be told that there will be a meeting for us state recognized down the road is surprising,” Norwood said.
Obama’s invitation to meet was delivered on Columbus Day during NCAI’s 66th Annual Conference and Trade Show in Palm Springs. The conference was attended by tribal leaders and representatives from almost 150 tribal nations.
Joe Garcia, who was still president of the national organization at the time, expressed the general sentiment of happiness that Obama would make good on his campaign promise to meet with the tribes.
“Indian country has been waiting for well over a decade for a meeting of this caliber with the President of the United States.”
The meeting will take place Nov. 5 at the Sidney R. Yates Auditorium at the Department of the Interior.
Leaders of the 564 federally recognized tribes have been issued invitations to send one representative to the meeting. The announcement said tribal leaders will be given the opportunity to interact directly with the president and other top administration officials.
“I look forward to hearing directly from the leaders in Indian country about what my administration can do to not only meet their needs, but help improve their lives and the lives of their peoples,” Obama said.
Larry Townsend, the tribal veterans service officer for the Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina, said NCAI should be pushing to have the state recognized tribes included.
“This organization is the National Congress of American Indians. It’s not the National Congress of the Federally Recognized American Indians. So NCAI has an obligation and a duty to make sure its members are duly represented, but we’re being told (the meeting) is for federally recognized tribes only. Is NCAI differentiating between us? Are we or are we not Indian tribes? I heard on the podium this morning that we’re an organization for all Indians.”
Townsend said representatives of state recognized tribes had complained to NCAI leadership about being left out.
“We voiced our objections to Jefferson Keel (the newly elected NCAI president), Joe Garcia, Juana Majel-Dixon, who is the first vice president, Theresa Two Bulls, the secretary, and Ron Allen, the treasurer. And there are others who feel like us. We’re all in this boat together. We’re like a chain. We’re only as strong as our weakest link,” Townsend said.
“NCAI does not set the White House invitation list. NCAI has urged the White House to include the state recognized tribes, most recently in NCAI Resolution PSP-09-008. In past meetings that administrations have had with tribal leaders, state recognized tribes were also not invited. This is not a new precedent that the White House does not include federally recognized tribes. Simply put, NCAI does not make this decision,” Keel said.
Norwood said Obama received the support of almost all of Indian country, including state and federally recognized tribes, and non-recognized Indian people, and said he was disappointed that history seems to be repeating itself.
“This is the second time it’s happened since I’ve been involved with NCAI. The first time was under George Bush, but we kind of understood that. I guess it’s a shocker that Obama is doing the same thing, because all of Indian country is the same. We were sovereign before the existence of the United States.”
When NCAI interfaces with the federal government, it should represent all of the tribes, Norwood said.
“Our situation needs to be addressed by this administration, because what you have effectively in this country is a form of apartheid, but it’s at a tribal level and I’m hoping Obama will fix that.”
Norwood said the state recognized tribes are talking about coordinating their efforts to address the issue.
Pointing to himself and Lance Gumbs, Shinnecock and NCAI’s newly elected representative for the northeast region, Norwood said, “You have two of the tribes of first contact sitting here at this table and to consider the fact that we’re being snubbed – it’s an insult and it’s insensitive and it also shows a lack of understanding. My hope is we can communicate that to the administration so we don’t repeat the last eight years.”
It’s a story that needs to be told, Gumbs said.
“Inside or outside of NCAI, this is a problem and we as state tribes need to start addressing what’s going on. It’s great that our federal brothers are going, but a piece of card doesn’t make them more Indian than us. That’s just reality. I was born Indian and I’ll die Indian.”
Saturday, Nov 14 at 5:24 AM Lfntwmn wrote ...
To my Federally recognized brothers and sisters who think State recognized tribes do not deserve the same rights as they do. Isn't that what many in this country thought about our black brothers and sisters many years ago? Well look at them now. I pray President Obama will soon realize the unfair treatment we have endured for so long, and do the right thing by these tribes. One more thing to Federally recognized tribes, what goes up will eventually come down. See you on the way down.
32100751 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Nov 9 at 8:07 AM Shoshone wrote ...
This is pitiful and sad to read this. All the fighting and division here. Either you know your ancestors and your history or you don't. I know my people are indigenous to this country do I need white folks to tell me that? Each tribe and their histories are not exactly the same. We have lost all respect for each other as people of Native decent. Remember your Ancestors who were put in their graves,raped, robbed, enslaved. Now 500 years later we need the same government to set our standards?
31823429 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Friday, Nov 6 at 6:09 PM Peter O'Filon, Nanticoke/Irish Metis wrote ...
Tribes *by definition* antedate USA. State recog. has no legal effect, gives no "special rights." As long as no Fed. claim is based on St recog ipso facto, I see nothing wrong w/it. But it is helpful in documenting "recog by people surrounding you" when/if pursuing Fed recog. It also helps with White Community relations ultimately (even when they react with racism/anti-Indianism first), which helps Natives *everywhere*. Sometimes we get (eastern) St. Ind. Comms., which also helps all.
31722064 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Friday, Nov 6 at 4:27 PM Kimberly wrote ...
I think it is unconstitutional for States to create state recognized tribes thereby giving a certain group of people special rights based on their race. The exception would be those that predated the existence of the US.
31717014 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Friday, Nov 6 at 12:22 PM anonymous wrote ...
To "heyokah", pay them no mind. You got to realize that their job (the fakes) is to comment on every native news topic on the internet, & assume an Indian personality to fool people, post regularly, and start inserting their bias and promoting the agendas they’ve been paid to do. But the good news is since we can easily spot them by their not understanding the first thing about federal recognition, they cannot sell their disinformation to unsuspecting readers.
31700261 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Thursday, Nov 5 at 8:45 PM heyokah wrote ...
To The Truth Nov 2nd comment- The federally recognized tribes are recognized because of the treaties made between the U.S. gov. in exchange for ending a war, exchange of lands, foces movments, etc. To insult the Federally Recognized tribes by calling names like "hang around the forts" is childish. It is evidnet you got your "tribal" heritage from a book.
31668919 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Thursday, Nov 5 at 7:48 PM jojo wrote ...
we recognize ourselves and each other, all tribes have been mistreated at sometime or another, many people were rewarded for serving the non-indians, those who defended themselves were murdered or lost recognition...we're still here, we talk the language, practice our ways, eat the native foods...and avoid politics as much as we can...many attending are not sincere in their goal to help, they come back and brag about "I was invited by Obama", things are still the same out here on the "rez"
31666541 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Thursday, Nov 5 at 2:09 PM Malia wrote ...
Meet Federal requirements? Tinks wrote States have no business recog. tribes to begin with. Well seems to me you were state first, then federal. Most can not meet these requirements because records are lost,changed or were verbal. It would seem to me that all Natives would stand for each other with out prejudices. I see the Native world is not much different than the white in that respect. Shame on you!
31647606 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Thursday, Nov 5 at 11:48 AM blkndnrat wrote ...
oh boo hoo!..more indian drama..yawn..
31638179 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Thursday, Nov 5 at 12:02 AM Elise Dawn Evans wrote ...
As a foster child 1/8 Cherokee/rest Welsh adopted by Italians and Germans, I find this wannabe label disturbing. Yes, I understand that most ethnic groups feel superior to others but can't "we" or "you" - depending on how you feel about adopted out 1/8 Cherokees from SC - stop giving power away. Stop being victims. Come to terms with yourself in the present and your attachment to heritage, ask for wisdom and strength and love your life. I refuse to commit spiritcide because of your/their labels.
31614756 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Wednesday, Nov 4 at 10:58 PM ski tsatoke wrote ...
I am who I am because of our family's it had nothing to do with politics or the government I believe that is what holds tribes together is the fact that we are all family. an i believe problems started when some one somebody put value on paper,the fact that we traded only for what we needed was taken away,we are still family an that is what needs to be recognized the fact that the government made it impossible to live without money is the problem (greed)
31612916 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Wednesday, Nov 4 at 9:23 PM Two feathers wrote ...
To my brothers and sisters of State recognized Tribes, urban Indians and individual Indians of Turtle Island. Why are you insulted? The federally recognized Tribes are not going to the the White House. The grounds are sufficient to host a party for that many people. No one will even notice that a meeting took place. It's not the White House.
31609976 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Wednesday, Nov 4 at 1:22 PM ANiYuWiYa wrote ...
I'm in agreement w/ Nov. 2 4:34 re: State Rec. The Lumbee traditional dress is the same style as the woodland tribes. Why would a coastal tribe dress like a woodland tribe? Their "eternal flame"? 20 years. Their dances? Powwow style. Designs? Plains style. We have a language immersion program, the same language Sequoyah put on paper in 1821. We have a proven history that dates back more than 1000 yrs. as required by the Fed. Gov. Why should they bypass the system?
31585661 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Nov 3 at 9:14 PM white cloud wrote ...
I agree mon that.this is only for the f recognized tribes..if all of them show up...u figure it out..in the 8 hours he will hear over 500 tribe leaders speak..what 3 minutes..if everyone came..the president couldnt talk to all of them,,get a Brain people..of state recognized tribes..
31547506 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Nov 3 at 7:34 PM Laura wrote ...
Wow, I wonder if the earliest government officials that first created the divide & conquer laws for the BIA and all Natives could ever have imagined they would succeed so wildly at keeping tribes working against each other.
31543436 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Nov 3 at 11:42 AM Still Here! wrote ...
My tribe was federally recognized in 1956 w/o federal dollars! It was during a time when the government was terminating its responsibility to Indian tribes. Does this not make us Indian? I think not! Should we have to depend on some federal double talk law or process to tell us that we look like, walk like, or speak like Indians? I agree with the person who said in 100 years you'll all be in the same boat as we on the east coast are in! Will you not be Indian then? It's all part of the plan!
31517661 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Nov 3 at 11:19 AM Kathryn wrote ...
I would think that Obama is meeting with Federal Tribes to listen to their concerns and hopefully help,thru the Federal Administration he oversees. State Tribes have their State Representatives they need to work with. We Federal Recognized Tribes are rich in culture, living on lands borrowed to use by creator, as everyone else is. That is the reason why the urbans come to visit us often.
31516231 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Nov 3 at 11:14 AM Red Bear wilma jo wrote ...
No matter we have treaties ,they have Laws or the Christians have the Ten commandments. As people do all of us abide to it all. I dont think so. We all need to go back to our Human Existence and begin from the Center. crying around wont ..do any good were all at the point of non-existence
31515906 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Nov 3 at 10:49 AM Reality Check wrote ...
There are currently 564 "fed recognized" tribes and the BIA is looking at nearly 250 Federal Recogniztion applications. I am sure there are state tribes who do deserve fed recogntion, the Shinnecock for example, but out of this 250 there has to be more than a few "bastardized tribesman" looking for federal handouts. The law of large numbers dictates you have to exclude them all until the fakes get weeded out. Sorry, but the integrity of our race is at stake here and the battle is all uphill.
31514344 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Tuesday, Nov 3 at 7:50 AM Brooks Lumbee wrote ...
Also you talk about being a cry baby... At least the tears we cry are on our own home lands and not in a trail across the the country. That was hard times for all Native people and this could go on forever about the tribes but look at who set the requirements and how they were set. Look at how the government has treated all of us in one way or the other, we all have the same goal. It's because of these types of words amongst us that there isn't more tribes on the Federal list.
31504164 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Nov 2 at 11:05 PM Brooks of the Lumbee Tribe wrote ...
I don't mean to sound negative but some Federal tribes are fighting hard to keep others on the State List. Just because our people would not give in and march across the country when we were asked to by the government and moved around in the sand hills and stood our ground that makes us cry baby's... you need to learn about history my friend. These colors don't run... remember that. Indian by birth and Lumbee by the Great Sprit...
31494609 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Nov 2 at 10:45 PM Richie wrote ...
Oh brother! I say end Federal Recognition. Adding more "Indians" to the roster only means that there is less resources to go around, and things aren't exactly stellar for us to begin with. Or better yet, give these "tribes" recognition in the fact that they can call themselves a tribe but without the ability to open gaming operations, etc. They will be Indian by name only, without the special status as a domestic dependent nation. See how long those tribes stick around.
31494026 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Nov 2 at 10:28 PM native american indian wrote ...
divide and conquer, the most affetive tool used. it worked when the government neededand Hitler. Barack talk represents all states collectively that is the danger of his actions and lies to live up to all indian treaties
31493456 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Nov 2 at 9:59 PM Why all the name calling? wrote ...
Wow. Why are state recognized/non recognized tribes/individuals calling federally recognized tribes/natives names? Isn't the point of this article that state recognized tribes/individuals want what the federally recognized tribes/individuals got? I guess when they can't have it they can only resort to name calling. Sticks and stones...
31492609 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Nov 2 at 9:07 PM The Truth wrote ...
Ignorance of some people is amazing... For you people who are "federally recognized"- in most instances you were the "hang around the fort Indians"- thats why you are "recognized" (as always needing a hand out and to be "taken care of...")... psuedo sovereign- most of you don't know your language or cultural... good for the ones that do- you are truly sovereign
31491051 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Nov 2 at 4:34 PM anonymous wrote ...
STATE TRIBES ARE STATE TRIBES FOR A REASON. THEY FLUNKED THE FIRST CRITERIA: "PROVE YOU HAVE BEEN AN INDIAN TRIBE ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS SINCE 1900" AND THEY COULDN'T BECAUSE THE MAJORITY ARE WANNABES. THIS PROVES THEY’RE ALL IN IT FOR THE MONEY. AND JUST AS WORSE, THE CROOKED THIEVING STATES HAVE BEEN APPROVING THEM. THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO.
31479269 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Nov 2 at 3:16 PM Crow Warrior wrote ...
Sometimes it's their own fault. They fight among themselves and can't get it together enough to have consensus about their form of organization or different groups just can't get along! Organize,document your case and GET recognition! Or quit complaining!
31475636 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Nov 2 at 12:32 PM Gabrielenoindians@yahoo.com wrote ...
ATT. STOP COMPLAINING AND LETS GET SOMETHING DONE IF ALL DOCUMENTED STATE RECOGNIZED TRIBES WANT FEDERAL RECOGNITION LETS GET IT.THE GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZED ALREADY WHEN THEY STEP FOOT ON OUR LAND ITS DOCUMENTED ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS CLAIM IT BACK LETS ALL STATE RECOGNIZED TRIBES COME TOGETHER AND MAKE A SPECIAL DAY TO MEET WITH THE GOVERNMENT CALL THIS NUMBER WE ARE ONE WHO WANT WHAT BELONGS TO US " FEDERAL RECOGNITION" 626 926-4131 GABREIELENO BAND OF MISSION INDIANS
31466387 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Nov 2 at 12:17 PM Gabrielenoindians@yahoo.com wrote ...
i am Andy Salas representative from the state recognized tribe Gabrieleno band of mission Indians of San Gabriel California i think that all state recognized tribes should stand together or at least one leader from each state recognized tribe make arrangements to meet the president of the united states and let him know what we want if we don't act quick we will not every be helped every call if all state recognized tribes want to work together to
31465547 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Nov 2 at 11:36 AM Chooge wrote ...
What's difficult to weed out is the non-Indian culture clubs claiming Indian. There are too many Cherokee clubs out there now, Western, Southern, Northern and all the other L-M-N-O-P Cherokees. Are we going to include that sweatlodge bunch in the news last month?
31463357 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Nov 2 at 10:25 AM Gerry wrote ...
I think this is not intended as an insult. Mr. Obama is President of the United States, and therefore a federal official. He is not a state official. He cannot speak for any state. Would it be better if he spoke to the state-recognized tribes as well? Very probably. Is this going to be perfect? Certainly not. But surely it is better if there is some attempt to communicate than none. Let us not allow "the perfect" to get in the way of doing anything at all.
31459464 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Monday, Nov 2 at 12:24 AM J Hernandez wrote ...
All tribes who feel a sense of identity should be recognized by the federal government. The procurement of money or land should not be the basis by which a tribe gains its tribal rights. Just as an individual does not gain its autonomy based on talent, wealth or reputation, but based on the fact he is an individual. All tribes should meet with Pres. Obama and at least be seen, sign a roster, listen to the arguments, etc. It is a momentous occasion for all the tribes participating.
31444952 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Sunday, Nov 1 at 8:32 PM Rev. J. R. Norwood wrote ...
I must make a correction, while the quote is basically accurate, I am not the ‘head’ of the Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape, but am honored to serve as a councilman and the tribe’s NCAI delegate. Mark Gould is our chief. [Comment from Rev. John Norwood, quoted in the article]
31435867 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Sunday, Nov 1 at 7:54 PM WISE ELDER wrote ...
To all This is truth from Wise Elder here in California the government recognized all Band of Mission Indians and granted state recognition to California tribes in the 18 lost treaties and then denied the treaties (hide them) yet the government recognized and gave recognition to tribes that don't even have a Mission there are state recognized tribes here in California who are being payed by federal recognized tribes just stay quit and not per sue federal recognition TURN COATS WISE ELDER
31434219 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Sunday, Nov 1 at 7:28 PM Gabrielenoindians@yahoo.com wrote ...
i am Andy Salas representative from the state recognized tribe Gabrieleno band of mission Indians of San Gabriel California i think that all state recognized tribes should stand together or at least one leader from each state recognized tribe make arrangements to meet the president of the united states and let him know what we want if we don't act quick we will not every be helped every call if all state recognized tribes want to work together to get our federal recognition 626 926-4131
31433074 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Sunday, Nov 1 at 6:53 PM Kunsi wrote ...
I'm from South Dakota - in another 100 years we will be where the east coast tribes are - losing our language and culture...give them credit, they realize it and are trying to do something about it...while in the plains we are just busy keeping stereotypes alive..
31431252 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Sunday, Nov 1 at 10:14 AM thunder woman wrote ...
Why are the 564 "tribes the only "federal" Tribes the ones recognized? There are a BUNCH of "Tribes" out there. I voted for you & I think that ALL tribes should be recognized! Fed or State. "no Dogs or Indians allowed" signs are still posted in S.D. Montana & parts west. Just like 50s' 60s' down south. DO Something!
31411677 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Sunday, Nov 1 at 9:37 AM Whitecloud wrote ...
Their are hundreds of petitioning State tribes who haven't been given their day in court. We have our own languages and customs that some posting here believe have no value. They probably can't speak their own languages. And all California Indians are federally recognized by 25USC657 California Indian defined and they use that as an excuse to not recognize us. right there in NAGPRA it says that if you already receive the goods and services that you can't apply for federal recognition.
31410363 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Sunday, Nov 1 at 9:37 AM Anonymous wrote ...
I guess the person above never heard of the 18 Lost Treaties and how some state recognized tribes actually were federally recognized at one time and got screwed when the treaties were found. Don't be so ignorant! Many injustices need to still be addressed.
31410353 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Saturday, Oct 31 at 9:18 PM GRAY WOOLF-MOHAWK wrote ...
I AM AN ELDER OF 73,AND ALL MY LIFE THE GOV. HAS SIDE STEP THE NATIVE AMERICANS.HOW MANY YEARS DOES IT TAKE OUR PEOPLE TO SEE THE SAMM LIES.AND PROMISES BROKEN BY THE US.GOV.QUIT WAITING FOR CHANGE IT WON'T HAPPEN. WE ARE PROUD PEOPLE,SO LETS STAND UP FOR WHO WE ARE.AND STOP DEPENDING ON THE GOV, TO BALE US OUT IT WON'T HAPPEN PEOPLE.MY GRANDFATHER AND GRANDMOTHER TOLD ME LONG AGI DON'T BR FOOLED BY THE LIES OF THE US.GOV. YOUR BROTHER GRAY WOOLF >>>>>-------------------->
31396457 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Saturday, Oct 31 at 6:02 PM Native NDN wrote ...
Most State tribes receive federal dollars therefore should be part of the discussion with Obama. The State tribes land are still held in trust by the feds and so too is their eventual eligibility for federal recognition. Obama has began is "double-talk" with tribes and is probably afraid of his previous commitments, especially in light of the many complex issues sworn to resolve. Don't believe limited space excuse to house 500 plus tribal reps for a Government-to-Government meeting.
31391693 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Saturday, Oct 31 at 5:42 PM Nochigahneh wrote ...
Wow! Same arrogant attitude as the gamimg tribes ignoring the non gaming tribes WHO ARE ALL FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED. I'm a member of a federally recognized tribe so I hate to bust your bubble but placing all this value of a tribe being recognized by the U.S. Government just goes to show how screwed up some tribal members can be. I was always taught what is most important is that other tribes recognize you as a Native community. Not for some, hey? The feds have succeeded in divide and conquer.
31391098 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Saturday, Oct 31 at 5:05 PM laughable wrote ...
To all those pretending this is a Nation to Nation, meeting, please stop perpetuating this tribal government fairy tale. You chairman and presidents are not leaders of independent nations. You are the leaders of a government that has very limited powers, less than a municipality. It depends solely on federal recognition and federal dollars. It's more akin to rural, small town mayors getting to listen to Obama speak for an hour and then taking some photos. We are not sovereigns, but we should be
31390167 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Saturday, Oct 31 at 3:47 PM ? wrote ...
We the people of the "United States" ever ring a bell?
31387933 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Saturday, Oct 31 at 10:46 AM David Cornsilk wrote ...
If the states had a legitimate process for recognizing tribes, maybe, but they don't. And the authority to have a government to government relationship rests solely with Congress or its designee. The state of Arkansas got it right when its attorney general issued a concise opinion detailing why states do not have recognition authority and declined to grant recognition to a corporate entity made up of wannabes. Its time to bring state recognition to an end, finally and totally.
31377927 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Saturday, Oct 31 at 10:30 AM anonymous wrote ...
State tribes are not under Federal law, they are not even considered an "Indian tribe" within the meaning of Federal law. When they petitioned for federal recognition, they could not meet the mandatory criteria for it: To demonstrate that it has been identified as an American Indian entity on a substantially continuous basis since 1900, so they're only recourse was to go under state recognition, thus under state law. Pres. Obama's summit represents Federal "nation-to-nation relationship."
31377232 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Saturday, Oct 31 at 10:13 AM bruce wrote ...
His people obviously view each as the same and did not understand the difference, great case in point, there should be no state recognition process, they should be automatically recognized by the federal government if they have been recognized by the state they reside and then the state process should be eliminated because they are nations not states.
31376558 Inappropriate? Alert Us!Saturday, Oct 31 at 9:56 AM Tinks wrote ...
You go Obama...States have no business recognizing tribes to begin with..if they don't meet federal requirememts then they don't exist. So be a cry baby...
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