Story Published:
Jun 22, 2009
Story Updated:
Jun 24, 2009
I come from a corny Skin family – we unapologetically love what we love. It can be anything; if we dig it, we are hopelessly uncool and shameless in our affection for it.
For example, we were big into “Hungry Hungry Hippos.” We had Hungry Hippo night on the weekends when we didn’t rent a video disc machine and some classic movies. Another example: My wonderful and stylish sisters loved to wear their blazer sleeves pushed up like Molly Ringwald in “Pretty in Pink.” Tacky. Terrible. True. Like I said, we love what we love.
Another thing that my family absolutely loves – unabashedly – is seeing other Skins on television or in the movies. The Skin actor/actress doesn’t even have to be a big part – bit roles are just as much sources of pride. Oh yeah, and cartoons work too! We were ecstatic to see the small, yet inspiring role of the Alaska Native lady with the really, really, really big breasts in “The Simpsons” movie. John Redcorn from King of the Hill and Apache Chief from the Superfriends? My heroes. My non-athletic mother, to this day, does three back flips whenever she sees Chief Bromden in “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.”
Big role or large role, either way, my mom excitedly points them out and asks – “You know that he’s Indian, right?”
Of course, mom; we used to have the video disc.
My friends are slightly different than me and my family. It seems like many of them love to dissect and analyze every single Skin role – on television or in movie – for accuracy and stereotypes. Not that seeking accuracy is bad in any way – it’s just that for me, movies are movies, not documentaries.
For example, once upon a broke Friday night, one of my closest friends from Acoma Pueblo and I got into a heated debate about the Disney movie, “Pocahontas.” I didn’t realize the hornet’s nest that I got myself into – I spoke glowingly of the movie. I told her how much my nieces LOVED the movie and that I frankly thought that, for a cartoon character, Pocahontas was extremely hot. Almost Jessica Rabbit hot. [And let’s keep it real – Jessica’s body was absolutely out of this world. And Jessica’s lips? Wow. Jessica Rabbit’s lips are the definition of pouty – they just did not make any sense. But I digress.]
But my friend didn’t agree. In fact, I’m sure she used a few curse words when she told me how disgraceful and bad the depiction of Pocahontas really was. My dear friend talked about how Pocahontas didn’t really marry John Smith but that Pocahontas had been captured. And while captured, Pocahontas met John Rolfe – her future hubby. The truth was very different than the Disney cartoon’s depiction of how she met her husband. Yes.
Also, slightly different from the way that I meet women; kinda.
Anyway, my wonderful and brilliant friend from Acoma was incredibly upset about the artistic license that was taken in the movie. And I tend to like all Disney cartoons (“Lion King”? “Mulan”?) – but I liked this one ever more because 1.) Pocahontas was hot; and because 2.) There was an image of a Skin on the big screen. Sure she was animated – but she was undoubtedly a Skin. When it came down to it, my Acoma friend and I simply had two very different takes on the movie. And my argument, “It’s a cartoon. … I doubt the tree really spoke to her and the raccoon seems slightly unrealistic as well,” was not gaining any momentum. Mind you, my main point was simply that my nieces and little sisters and lots and lots of other little Skin girls finally got to see a Skin woman on television.
And I was happy for that. But maybe I shouldn’t have been. Maybe I should be offended when a portrayal of our people comes on television or at the movie theater that isn’t 100 percent correct. Maybe the hundreds and hundreds of Pueblo and Navajo girls who congregated at the Gallup movie theater when “Pocahontas” came out were wrong to enjoy the movie. Maybe they should’ve been more politically savvy and protested the movie. Maybe my family, and people like us, are too simplistic and just don’t know any better to be offended.
I remember being at the National Museum of the American Indian in NYC for a film festival. In a question and answer session, some of the Skin directors and producers wouldn’t even refer to “Dances With Wolves” by its proper name. They just called it “That movie” or “DWW.”
My mom and my sisters and aunties think that “Dances with Wolves” is a great movie. They love seeing all the handsome Skin men on horses. I think they even liked the plot. Are they just too non-political to realize that they should be offended by it? Should we dissect every movie and demand that every movie with Skins in it be 100 percent historically accurate? I’m pretty darn sure that not every Chinese man knows kung-fu or runs on top of trees like in “Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.” I’m almost positive that not every black man dresses in drag and speaks in a high-pitched voice like in the Madea movies. Still, there doesn’t seem to be the same outcry. Are movies about Skins somehow different from other movies? Do they require more historical accuracy and sensitivity than Chinese movies or black movies? Are we that fragile?
What do you Skins think?
Gyasi Ross is a member of the Blackfeet Nation and his family also comes from the Suquamish Tribe. He is a lawyer, a warrior, a teacher, an entrepreneur and an author. He is co-founder of Native Speaks LLC, a progressive company owned by young Native professionals which provides consultation and instruction for professionals and companies, as well as young adults. Gyasi is currently booking dates for his presentation, “The Best: An Indian Theory of Existence.” E-mail him at gyasi.ross@gmail.com.
Wednesday, Jul 29 at 7:09 PM Jennie wrote ...
Let's face it. We are the minority of minorities. Society (white) is not ready to deal with us on equal footing. We haven't been in the game long enough. We have to pay dues...like Blacks and Hispanics (Latinos) and immigrants have paid. So, you can be complacent, ignorant, take up arms, or educate the youth about the history of indigenous people in this country with this government so they can make informed decisions and be critical observers and participants in the world.
27020669Thursday, Jul 23 at 11:44 PM Brandon wrote ...
I remember when Pocahontas came out, we weren't allowed to watch it until my mother saw it first. After that, we were allowed to and the only comment we were told was; corn was and is not only yellow. But I do think we need more accurate portrayals on TV/Cinema, it's tiring to explain not all indians have only black hair etc. (I'm an urban indian, military brat) I liked "Brother Bear" too and my family also avidly watched any movie with a skin in it.
26686359Saturday, Jun 27 at 5:30 PM TheBadhorse wrote ...
pocahontas was hot. i like skins on movies man. peace.
25069122Thursday, Jun 25 at 1:24 PM n8vqueen wrote ...
Ladies, get off Gaysi's nuts...Don't make his ego any bigger...
24954929Thursday, Jun 25 at 2:50 AM Nasupeti wrote ...
Gyasi, talked with a top Hollywood exec several years back and he confirmed that they (white people)are not ready to see or hear how NDNz see them in movies-it wont sell($$$). So if you don't care how your tribe is portrayed then fill the pockets of those who control how they want us to not think...sounds like assimilation lol
24928631Wednesday, Jun 24 at 9:43 PM stinketh paltrow wrote ...
i think we need to worry about what we teach our kids. if our kids are swayed (negatively or positively) by images of skins they see on screen it'll be because we have done our job as parents/guardians (or not) of teaching them that we're not all the same and that they need to think critically about what they're looking at. yes, we need to be aware of the messages that are being presented to the world on our behalf, but most of our communities have bigger issues to worry about/deal with.
24919382Wednesday, Jun 24 at 3:07 PM LaverneP. wrote ...
As adults we can identify stereotypes but some children are too young to understand. Pocahonta's is remembered well because she was obedient to the non indians. When will Disney make a movie of Toypurina? She was the Indian woman who opposed the California Missions and tried to break out all the Indians. The real issue is that are kids are mostly learning the non indian views and not the indian point of view.I think stereotyping is hurtful in any color.Education is needed because it exists.
24897181Tuesday, Jun 23 at 11:48 PM kamimila & matohska wrote ...
A few years ago my husband was audtioning in Hollywood for various commercials and roles in films -- He was a stand in for Russell Means and walked in the deep snow at Big Bear in moccasins and elk skin regalia! There was a commercial that needed an "eskimo type" my husband is Lakota and Looks it -- they still auditioned him!-- All in all we had a lot of fun with the silliness of it. By the way -- we like to see skins in the flicks too -- it sure doesn't damage our view of self.
24789764Tuesday, Jun 23 at 7:56 PM skin-y girl wrote ...
OOOOOH GYASI! you are soooo hot, and you have such pouty lips! I'm sorry, what was your article about again?!? Seriously, I like to see skins on t.v. and in movies, and yeah, I laughed at Eddie Thundercloud...wait a minute-with the way the economy is going, maybe I shoulda voted for Eddie! It would be nice to see a balance between caricature and honest historical portrayal, and, honest portrayal of modern day indians, you know, those of us who aren't werewolves.lol!
24651187Tuesday, Jun 23 at 2:33 PM mduarte wrote ...
After Pocahontas came out my little cousins ran around calling each other "Puta-hontas." (Puta in Spanish means sl**.) (I'm Yaqui. Yaquis speak Spanish, Yaqui and English.) Media representations of Skins brings up issues in the community, which, in a way, is what art is supposed to do. Art evokes. Question is: what does it evoke? And how do we build positivity in our communities from there? Thanks for the insights, Mr. Ross.
24435127Tuesday, Jun 23 at 1:39 PM Modoc_Rose wrote ...
I think that when we insist on being offended by Hollywood's portrayal of Natives, we do ourselves a great disservice. Since when does Hollywood have the power to define us as a people? I am weary of the 'Oh woe is me' attitude among ANY race, even though I have faced great opposition based on my looks before I even opened my mouth. It turns out that I am successful, caring and intelligent and I make no apologies. It is our duty to live as our ancestors did; strong, intelligent, and proud!
24414539Tuesday, Jun 23 at 10:57 AM Anonymous wrote ...
Right on! Me and my kids are always excited about the occasional Indian-sighting. When they were little we were able to laugh at the Indian mouse singing on Balto 2, without it confusing their self-image. Even as older kids, they laughed at the Family Guy casino episode (as wrong as it may be!). Just because I don't force them to care about media stereotypes, doesn't mean they're passive or unaware. They're just so comfortable with their own identity, that they don't feel threatened.
24364762Tuesday, Jun 23 at 3:46 AM jdogg wrote ...
I happen to like Dances with Wolves also. Sure the film is told from the all too familiar anglo point of view, but in this case it does work for me. The story is already changed by using Lakota people instead of Comanche as was in the book, so I've always viewed the film from that perspective, and knowing that films change all the time as they are made, well, a good movie is a good movie, regardless.
24270554Tuesday, Jun 23 at 3:00 AM Lala wrote ...
I think one of the issues is that the only parts Skins "get" to play, is the stereotyped "Dances with Wolves Skin kowtowing to the Great White Father." Case in point, how long did Adam Beach stay last at Law & Order? I think we can stop talking about it when, like other actors, a Skin can play any role, doctor, lawyer, mom... without becoming a caricature.
24270049Monday, Jun 22 at 9:25 PM Worried as well... wrote ...
Youth around the world is being watch Disney...replacing many of our own teaching stories...that is what worries me. As a Native( over the"SKINS"usage)media and images are powerful mediums...that is why your Acoma friend was angry. I don't blame her as a Native woman...its just another image that we must overcome in being ourselves in our communities. Its not being "over sensitive" but conscious. She sacrificed her life for her people and never came home...how awful to never come home.That's sad
24261044Monday, Jun 22 at 6:55 PM LoriLaiwa wrote ...
i'll be darned...average savage surfaced!!!! Sometimes it's fun to pick movies apart...but in the end, I like to be entertained...like the description of DWW indian hotties...it's why I like Apocolypto despite Mel Gibson's inaccurate portrayal...I like to see indian actors working period!!!!!
24255059Monday, Jun 22 at 6:45 PM beautiful wrote ...
I just have to say how HOT the author of this blog is!!! Sorry, but I like what I like...
24254622Monday, Jun 22 at 6:38 PM susan wrote ...
You're picturesque writing is so vivid. I too, like to applaud the Skins out there making it just like everyone else. I too, point them out to my kids and acknowledge them. I'm sure some characters are hard to portray, but hey, who else can give them justice? Acting is entertaining us. Not like practicing medicine or the law. "I'm not a Skin doctor, but I play one on T.V., and a real T.V. set dr's office, not an IHS clinic dr's office." I say, lighten up, let your mind be free to have fun.
24254292Monday, Jun 22 at 6:10 PM salish wrote ...
I put on a cd, the music starts,my 6 yr old client, tells me "thats Pocahontas" & I tell her "I'm Indian, too" & she says "no, you're not. You don't have black hair", That's a problem. You say "Indian" and people think "generic". A huge amount of time spent educating co-workers, who also think generic, people who are in charge of other peoples lives,that there are 100's of different tribes with different faces that need to be respected. Yeh,its good to be recognized but not as cartoons.
24252992Monday, Jun 22 at 5:33 PM Russ wrote ...
"fragile"...must be italian
24251352Monday, Jun 22 at 5:19 PM Gyasi wrote ...
Hey everybody--thanks for the comments. I appreciate you folks who feel that we should "control" the content/images that non-Skins see. Still, at what point can our movies STOP being all documentaries and instead we have Skin actors who can simply provide entertainment (instead of education)? It just seems, in my humble opinion, overly self-conscious--do I really wanna think that much? Do all of our movies have to be documentaries? Av. Sav, that was fun right?? :-D
24250627Monday, Jun 22 at 4:45 PM Shoshoni wrote ...
Hey, Gyasi, what does your Acoma friend look like? Hot I'll bet! Thats probably why she is so sensitive, she can afford to be!
24248939Monday, Jun 22 at 4:37 PM Karan wrote ...
I looove the movies & I take them for what they are...entertainment. Hollywood has taken liberties with ALL stories that are made into films, it is what it is ($$$). I love to see tribal people in all roles too, it makes me proud that they've broken through to the mainstream of entertainment. And it doesn't necessarily have to be a blockbuster...good stories are what I'm looking for. Who doesn't love a good story? :)
24248522Monday, Jun 22 at 4:27 PM Benjamin wrote ...
I see what your saying but I agree with the friend from Acoma. Of course I love to see natives on tv. I just worry what non-native people will walk away thinking. In most cases non-natives will not have many opportunities to learn about natives. Non-natives main points of reference are Pocahontas is a mischievous girl that sleeps around with white men (Disney and The New World), DWW is Lakota = good Pawnee = bad, not to mention mascots. Ok I’m exaggerating a little. But the world is watching.
24248022Monday, Jun 22 at 3:47 PM David Velarde Jr wrote ...
I'm sensitive to a degree but a lot of folk use this argument for their own lack of sensitivity. Take for instance, supporters of the Mascot issue, they say we need to get a life but then they don't know how or why it impacts Native Children, I used to get chills of embarrassment when I saw Anglos doing a sad imitation of a war dance and still does.
24245867Monday, Jun 22 at 3:00 PM hamlaw wrote ...
Gyasi: You're absolutely right, we are "way" sensitive. A healthy native person can separate who they are (Native) from what's on the screen (an entertainment stereotype). Just as a Chinese person can watch Jet Li with pride, we can watch Wes, Floyd (Bless his soul) Rodney, Nathan, ect. with great pride. Actually, the close-to-noble-warrior is a stereotype too. My favorite movie Indian of all times is "Whistling Elk" (Paul Lynde in "The Villain"), a movie the "Governator" wishes we'd forget.
24243299Monday, Jun 22 at 2:38 PM Delon wrote ...
Hello, Well all Disney movies are "Fantasy" and this is simply the way they are portrayed...I dont think that as a cartoon we shouldnt be offended as some tribal cultures have a sense of comedic culture (sense of humor). This allows us to relieve any stress and to allow us to continue to live stress free. I think all cultures, i.e., Natives, Black, Chinese, etc..are captured through Disney's entertainment groups. I dont think a car will get offeneded over old rusty tires (mater)...
24242082Monday, Jun 22 at 1:19 PM Jean-Nicole wrote ...
I really enjoyed watching "Brother Bear", I'm sure some may have been offended by all the Native magic in that movie, but I loved it! That SALMON made me hungry!
24237879Monday, Jun 22 at 1:13 PM Rob Schmidt wrote ...
Pocahontas doesn't marry John Smith in the movie. He has to return to England so they part ways without having been married.
24237537Monday, Jun 22 at 12:25 PM AverageSavage wrote ...
Merciless-Hey, what I really want to know is when the remake of Billy Jack is getting done. The old Billy sported a snappy black hat, black T and wranglers. The masses want to know what the new millenium Billy might rocking these days. (by the way,vainglorious *x clan fans* I fully endorse your previous blog post and the peals of outrage it provoked). avesav.
24234729Monday, Jun 22 at 12:11 PM Bird wrote ...
Disney did make a movie about Pocahontas & John Rolfe getting married: Pocahontas 2. This was so the now Rolph family wouldn't sue. Much of the family emigrated from England back to America. However it was one of those straight to video movies. As a direct descendant of the pair I appreciate that Disney bothered to tell the truth.
24234002Monday, Jun 22 at 12:04 PM JR wrote ...
John Redcorn is the man. Big Mountain Fudgecake Rules!!!
24233624Monday, Jun 22 at 11:47 AM Just maybe wrote ...
Maybe when Hollywood actually starts making movies that represent natives in realistic and actual way, then we can ignore the all the Pocahontas type movies and just take them as entertainment.
24232589Monday, Jun 22 at 11:33 AM GetDOE wrote ...
GYASI! much like you, I love to see skins in movies/on tv, etc. Which reminds me, tell your mom to watch the Twilight saga New Moon because it has SKINS in it...."real ones" hahaha!
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